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HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-18-1990 Adopted CC Min Study Session ADJOURNED REGULAR ~EET~N9 (Study Session) - April 18, 1990 An adjourned regUlar meeting (study session) of the City Council of the City of Dublin held jointly with the Planning Commission was held on Monday, April 18, 1990, in the Council Chambers of the Dublin Civic Center. The meeting was called to order at 7:03 p.m., by Mayor Paul Moffatt. ROLL CALL PRESENT: Councilmembers Hegarty, Jeffery, Snyder, Vonheeder and Mayor Moffatt and Planning Commissioners Barnes, Burnham, Mack, Okun and Zika. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Mayor led the Council, Commission, Staff and those Present in the pledge of allegiance to the flag. Staff'advised that this study session was scheduled to discuss General Plan Policies and Land Use Concepts for East Dublin. Mayor Moffatt introduced Project Coordinator, Brenda Gillarde. Ms. Gillarde advised that this is 'one of the largest planning projects in Northern California and that the East Dublin General Plan Amendment/ Specific Plan/EIR Study (GPA/SP/EIR) was initiated by the City in the fall of 1988, following submission of a request to consider development of the 930 acre Dublin Ranch. The City Council determined that prior to acting on the request, a comprehensive study should be undertaken for the entire East Dublin area. The City retained the firm of Wallace, Roberts & Todd to prepare the East Dublin GPA/SP/EIR. Ms. Gillarde introduced Alison Massa with WRT. Ms. Massa advised that the study area includes approximately 7,400 acres of relatively undeveloped land east of Dublin. The topography ranges from virtually level land adjacent to 1-580 to steeply sloping hills in the upper, northern portion of the study area. Some grazing occurs in the hills and there are approximately 35 occupied residences on the property. Approximately 66% of the study area lies within Dublin's existing Sphere of Influence. The remainder of the planning area, including a portion of Doolan Canyon, lies outside the City's Sphere of Influence. Ms. Massa presented the Concepts Report which detailed five different land use options that could be considered for East Dublin. Some of the land use concepts would'require minor modifications to existing policies; others would involve major policy adjustments to accommodate the level of development represented by the concept. The concepts were preliminary only and subject to further refinement. The area is quite extensive and varied and slides were shown of how the area currently looks. An underlying vision common to all the concepts was @*@*@*@*@*@*@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@, CM- VOL 9 - 89 Study Session April 18, 1990 that East Dublin is seen as a living and working community. concept contained a sUbstantial amount of retail use. Each The five concepts share a common vision of a dynamic community that provides opportunities for people to live and work as well as recreational opportunities. Within the community would be one or more business centers containing a mix of office, retail and other commercial uses. Residential neighborhoods of different types of housing would surround each center and would be connected by landscaped parkways and pedestrian pathways. An extensive system of open space corridors would provide visual relief from the urban landscape, as well as outdoor recreational opportUnities. Cm. Zika questioned if, in figuring the housing deficit, does this assume the number employed compared to the number of dwelling units available. Where do earnings come into play and whether or not the units will be affordable. Ms. Massa advised that the report does not take into account questions of affordability, but does take into account the number of people in a household. Cm. Hegarty stated that if every community would strive to create a jobs/housing match, we would not have the commute situations that exist today. If one city accomplishes this and another doesn't, then one will obviously suffer. You then might develop a concept of one city creating jobs and letting another city build the houses. He felt the goal was to have as close a match as possible. Ms. Massa advised that in putting the concepts together, and in evaluating them, theY looked at a number of factors besides the ratio of employed workers to housing units. There are some significant traffic impacts which would require some substantially greater infrastructure for roads and highways. Cm. Jeffery advised that one of the reports used in developing the land use concepts was the Economics Research Associates of 1988. She questioned who commissioned this report. Ms. Massa advised that it was a part of the overall East Dublin contract. Ms. Gillarde discussed the policy issues raised by the 5 concepts. Because this is a General Plan Amendment, the possibility of modifying some of the policies can be considered to accommodate different kinds of development in East Dublin than has occurred elsewhere in the City. There are 43 policies in the General Plan which can be applied to East Dublin; however, 6 were selected which most impact development in East Dublin. The 6 policies were then reviewed. Cm. Jeffery advised that with Concept 5 she was concerned regarding the agreement with Alameda County and what will be forced upon us by legislature regarding jobs/housingbalance. @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@, CM -VOL 9 - 90 Stu4y Session April 18, 1990 City Manager Ambrose advised that this is something we will have to discuss with the County. There is no question that this is a problem. Ms. Gillarde advised that the County fully acknowledges their agreement. The County has rethought their position and are actually in favor of a more mixed use. Cm. Jeffery indicated that when the agreement was made, there was no land that was set aside as a transportation center. Ms. Gillarde indicated that in discussions with the County, they are open to considering other uses. Cm. Hegarty questioned what type of height requirements were being recommended. Ms. Gillarde stated she thought it was 200' with regard to the Airport Land Use Commission referral. They anticipate no conflicts with this. There is a requirement to forward a developed plan to them and then they have a chance to comment. Cm. Hegarty stated he was concerned regarding spreading things out and using up all the land. Land can be preserved by building upwards. ThiS is the time to carefully consider heights. When the original GP was adopted, the Council told people to bring their plans and concepts in regarding height and the Council would consider how high to go..~ There was flexibility built in. Cm. Mack felt the designation of a 600 acre business park on the Santa Rita property in Concept 5 was inconsistent with the first 4 concepts. Mayor Moffatt called a short recess and advised that when the meeting reconvened, audience members would be allowed to offer comments. All Councilmembers and Commissioners were present when the meeting was reconvened. Mayor Moffatt reiterated that no votes or consensus will be taken at this meeting, but the purpose of the meeting was for a study session only. Zev Kahn, 11708 Harlan Road stated he had concerns regarding parks and recreation issues. He questioned how the amount of land was figured and also, how the school yards related to park uses. Schools and school yards have been indicated as recreational areas. If there are not enough parks, you will severely restrict the people who will eventually live there. He did not see any real park areas on the maps. Mayor Moffatt advised that specific questions would not be addressed tonight, but would be added to the list of concerns to be studied. Ms. Massa briefly explained that the General Plan says only to expand park space in the extended planning area. They took the upper end of the Quimby Act dedication requirement, which is 5 acres per thousand @*@*@*@*@*@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@, CM - VOL 9 - 91 Study Session April 18, 1990 residents. They also introduced the notion of school parks. They are not cutting back on the acreage devoted to parks, but rather combining. Another idea common to all the concepts is the idea of a Citywide sports park, shown in 3 of the concepts on flatland along Tassajara, adjacent to the proposed Alameda County government center. Mary Beth Acuff, 8048 Via Zapata expressed concerns that Dublin is under the gun to produce affordable housing. She felt that of all the concepts presented, only #4 gives enough flexibility for the city to negotiate so that some lower income housing is built. It is extremely important to consider architectural planning for height, open space, etc., and flexibility must be built in. Therese Swan, 6931 Langmuir Lane pointed out that many companies are laying people off, and questioned why Dublin would want to build another business park. All this will do is drive down property values. Not enough businesses are moving into this area. Larry Anderson with BART stated he was very encouraged by the focus of the plan on pedestrian network and provisions that will encourage transit. Park & Ride facilities have been placed near 1-580. He was concerned about the configuration of a roadway, in that Dublin Boulevard seems to move away from the BART station. Adolph Martinelli with Alameda County reminded the Council and Commission that the Santa Rita property has a different status from the other property. This is subject to an initial agreement which is very sensitive related to tax transfers and land uses. The County is not opposed to alternative uses, but it is a very sensitive issue. The County would support mixed use on the property, particularly to work toward jobs/housing balance. He felt a policy should be added to look at vertical land uses, particularly on the western portion of the study area. He also pointed out that the Triad Business Center in Livermore is shown on all the plans, but BART is not shown. Circulation will be a controlling factor, even more than open space and jobs/housing balance. This is a long term plan which will take many years to build out. Dublin is blessed with geography and timing and Dublin can become the focal point of the entire region. Marjorie LaBar, 11707 Juarez Lane indicated that several assumptions made in the report jump out at her as being downright dangerous. She was concerned with water shortage and the fact that we may not be able to get all of our allotment from the State of California. To assume this kind of growth with an unstable water supply is dangerous. She suggested a concept 6 that would take into affect the airport buffer zone, amount of water available, and a 30% slope development restriction. She also felt that the financial figures might need to be redone. Everyone should know up-front what it will cost to meet Level of Service D. She was concerned with development height and conflicts with the flight zones. Ted Fairfield, P. O. Box 1148, Pleasanton stated he was glad to finally be at this point in the process. It appears we are headed toward the real thing. He represented 2400 acres of the property. @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@, CM - VOL 9 - 9Z Study Session April 18, 1990 Concept 3 has been referred to as the developers option. It does have problems, but overall is a good plan. He discussed the various concepts and felt that #4 takes away a little of the flexibility. We must keep in mind that we are looking 20 years into the future. What is done now will somewhat put a cap on what is ultimately done. We cannot change our minds years from now. All the infrastructure will be built as one of the first phases of development. There will be some very heavy front-end costs. Ownership and use of open space is somewhat in questiOn. There are a lot of nice thoughts for the land. This will be an evolutionary process. Putting in a band of 5 acre ranchettes as a buffer might be desirable. With regard to the riparian corridors, they hoped that these are counted for density purposes. This will be a substantial issue as the study progresses. He felt personally that there are too many schools on the site, and based this on other communities in which they have done plans. In summary, he felt that everything is headed in the right direction. Trevor Patterson, 5661 Doolan Road expressed concern that he was deleted from the ownership pattern page. He questioned how much area in width is included in the riparian corridor. He pointed out that Concept #3 takes out his house completely. He also asked if Cottonwood Creek had been mapped. Ms. Massa advised that the riparian corridors were approximately 200' wide and also that Cottonwood Creek has not been mapped. Marty Inderbitzen, 62 West Neal Street, Pleasanton stated he represented Doolan property and Lin properties along with Ted Fairfield. One of the notable things is that there is a substantial amount of property owned by a few property owners. This gives a chance for the proPerty owners to participate in the future development of the City of Dublin. This area of the Valley represents Dublin's opportunity to grow to maturity and a chance to become the real jewel of this Valley. It is exciting. With regard to the ALUC, Dublin needs to be cognizant of this commission, but he did not feel that they could impose any restrictions. Bobbie Foscalina, 5200 Doolan Road quoted various ABAG statistics and felt that the plans presented would throw Dublin's jobs/housing ratio out of balance. She questioned if the area could absorb this much commercial development or housing. The Council should be concerned because each of the concepts conflict with the General Plan, and all the plans seem to lead to a LOS D or F, which are unacceptable. She felt there should be an additional plan which would leave Doolan Canyon undeveloped which would also keep infrastructure costs down for the rest of the area. Most of the residents of this canyon are not interested in being developed into Dublin. Bill Diehl, 22916 ESpada, Salinas congratulated everyone involved in putting these plans together. He urged Dublin not to be timid in the future. Developers are becoming very sensitive. It is difficult to look 20 years into the future, but the key has to be flexibility. Whatever land concept is chosen, you may discover that some of the things may be ina. ppropriate. He urged the City to go forward. @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@, CM - VOL 9 - 93 Study Session April 18, 1990 Doug Abbott, 8206 Rhoda Avenue stated he was troubled by this whole process. Since he assumed that a lot of thought was put into the General Plan, why not develop a concept that conforms. Each one of the concepts presented asks for exceptions to the General Plan. Dublin's General Plan should mean something and should protect existing residents. Carolyn Morgan speaking for Donna Ogelvie, 5184 Doolan Canyon felt it was premature to have these meetings since LAFCO has not made their decision and won't until next month. The costs for infrastructure are staggering. She questioned how this will be funded and who is going to pay for it. The drought of the last few years is a major concern. Why not leave Doolan Canyon as 5 and 10 acre parcels and use them as a bUffer. She also was very concerned regarding traffic circulation. Carolyn Morgan felt that Dublin was leaving itself open for tons of complaints regarding schools and other proposed uses under an airport path. She also pointed out that she saw no reference in the report related to the transfer of development credits. About 4 months ago, they asked permission to submit their own plans. She questioned the percentage of costs for infrastructure compared to the percentage of housing for just Doolan Canyon. The newspaper reported that housing in Doolan~Canyon would be under $200,000. She did not feel this could be done. She questioned Congressman Stark's proposed legislation and also the County's policy. She also questioned why Doolan Canyon was even included in the plan. Ed Freiling, 7773 Woodren Court stated that it appeared that the Council and Commission is finetuning and he questioned if he was even on the same channel. He asked what these plans will do to property values. Also, what will an influx of 40,000 to 80,000 people have on the drug situation, the water supply, and various other health issues. He felt that that many people will bring social diseases. Glenn Brown, Stedman Associates, 1646 North California Boulevard, Walnut Creek stated he wanted to make a pitch for higher use of the flatlands, as this allows more preservation of the land. Some high rise development will pull people off the freeway and get them into the office uses. He questioned the 400' noise buffer zone as it distracts visibility from the freeway. High density residential might be better kept closer to the freeway as a way of keeping infrastructure costs down. Dublin needs to have freeway visibility. Don Redgwick, 1632 Loganberry Way, Pleasanton (Dublin Ranch owner) stated he was the owner of 160 acres in the Sphere of Influence. He felt the proposed Doolan Canyon Road should be moved to the east and the existing road could be left in a rural sense which would leave them out of the costs of infrastructure. He discussed the economics of housing versus jobs market. The housing element can pay for itself quite easily if it is a mixture of low cost as well as upscale housing. Mr. Redgwick passed out 2 letters to the Council and Commission and stated he favored Concept #3 as having a higher percentage of single-family residences and lower percentage of @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@, CM - VOL 9 - 94 Stu4y Session April 18, 1990 multiples. It also has a better jobs/housing ratio than the others. He felt that Concept #3 was clearly the best choice. John DiManto, San Jose Construction advised that he represented property at the northeast corner of Tassajara Road and 1-580. His company has been business park commercial developers for many years. Combinations will ultimately be appealing to developers. If you create a high profile area, you can mix sizes, shapes and heights along the freeway all the way to Livermore. He felt it was important to show the connection to Santa Rita Road on future plans. Harvey Scudder, 7409 Hansen Drive advised that traffic is absolutely solid on the freeway from Tracy into Dublin. If you place this many additional cars on the freeway, plans need to be done to accommodate all these cars. He felt that everyone on the Council and Commission should observe this traffic volume on a weekday. Bob Beebe, General Manager of DSRSD stated he felt it would be quite straight forward to serve this area from an engineering standpoint. Zone 7 is now serving the area and does not feel that water will be a problem for many years. Mayor Moffatt announced that the public comment portion of the meeting was closed. Ms. Gillarde stated General Plan Policy #1: Consider residential development proposals (including support facilities) on, moderate slopes, with multi-family densities typically considered on flatter land. Cm. Snyder felt that if we change the concept to preserve the land, then densities must be reconsidered. Cm. Vonheeder felt this is one of the ways in which we can work toward achieving a greater housing balance. Cm. Zika felt the policies should be compared to the various concepts. Cm. Hegarty stated the City had talked extensively about the 30% slopes. If there were pockets that could be developed, the Council would consider this. He felt there was nothing wrong with the existing General Plan as it provides flexibility. ~ He expressed frustration at seeing all the colors on the map, when in actuality, when the development plans come in, these will change. He felt the policy related to the 30% slopes should be maintained. On a case-by- case basis, some modifications could be made. Cm. Vonheeder felt that there could be an increase in density on moderate slopes of up to 30%. Cm. Jeffery stated she had no problem considering higher densities on other than flatlands, provided there was a right place for it. We can preserve the look of the Valley and still allow for some development. She indicated no problem with height, unless it blocks the hills. @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@, CM - VOL 9 - 95 Study Session April 18, 1990 Ms. Gillarde stated General Plan Policy #2: Approval of residential development in the extended planning area will require determination that ... proposed site grading and means of access will not disfigure the ridgelands. Cm. Jeffery stated that~in some areas, you have to do some cutting for roads, but disfigurements can be mitigated and put back to a natural state. Cm. Hegarty mentioned that he liked a term that he had once heard John DiManto use, and that was to "sculpture the hills". Often times, development can actually improve the visual impacts. Ms. Gillarde stated Policies #3 and #4: Maintain slopes predominantly over 30% (disregarding minor surface humps and hollows) as permanent open space for public health and safety. Prior to planning and/or building permit approval of more than 9,000 (22%) of the potential jobs in the Extended Planning Area, one or more Specific Area plans shall be developed to designate sufficient land for housing in reasonable relationship to existing jobs and jobs being proposed; and to demonstrate how needed municipal services will be provided. Ms. Gillarde indicated that before you can approve x number of square feet, you must have housing for the workers. Acting City Attorney Silver indicated she was not aware of any specific legislation regarding jobs/housing requirement balance. Cm. Zika asked what is reasonable and who determines this. Mr. Tong indicated that this is a policy decision. The City needs to make a good faith effort to obtain a balance. Cm. Vonheeder felt the law was that you should strive for a 1/1~ ratio. Cm. Mack indicated she would like to see the policy changed. Cm. Zika felt the policy is vague enough that we can do what we want. Cm. Jeffery stated she did not see a problem with the way it is written. Cm. Snyder felt this was a statement that Dublin may never even have to deal with, if housing is in place before the jobs are created. The area needs to be economically viable and this allows for flexibility. Cm. Mack asked if the City had ever considered trailer parks as a way of providing affordable housing. Mayor Moffatt indicated that specific uses were not being discussed, but this type of comment would be more appropriate at a later time. Cm. Okun felt that other types of housing must be considered. @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@, CM - VOr. 9 - 96 Study Session April 18, 1990 Ms. Gillarde stated General Plan Policy #5: Regulate grading and development on steep slopes. Cm. Snyder indicated that there were extensive discussions during the development of the General Plan relative to this. There is a possibility that there may be ridgelines that would be more attractive developed than undeveloped. Some can be enhanced. Cm. Vonheeder stated that another issue that comes into consideration is that ridgelines are not clearly defined; and from what locations. Some can be enhanced by grading. Cm. Jeffery felt that defining ridgelines is almost as difficult as defining affordable housing. Cm. Hegarty added that basically, he saw nothing wrong with a house on a hill, if it is done correctly. Ms. Gillarde stated Policy #6: Strive to phase development and road improvements outside the Downtown Specific Plan area so that the operating Level of Service (LOS) for major street intersections shall not be worse than LOS D. Cm. Vonheeder indicated she had a problem with the policy beginning with "Strive". She felt it should simply being, "Phase development... " Cm. Snyder advised that Pleasanton has a stipulation in the NPID that does not allow anything beyond LOS D. If it is worse than this, it restricts future development. Cm. Jeffery discussed the BART station location. Ms. Gillarde advised that Staff will next find common threads and come back to the City Council and Planning Commission regarding land use. The final plan will be a synthesis of all the plans. cm. Vonheeder indicated she liked the parks concept. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to come before the Council, the meeting was adjourned at 10:00 p.m. M lv_~5~ - 7 ( ATTEST: "~ ~" ~ ~ city~C~er~k;~ ~*~*~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~, CM - VOL 9 - 97 Study Session April 18, 1990