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HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-15-1990 Adopted CC Min Study SessionSPECIAL WORKSHOP STUDY SESSION MEETING - November 15, 1990 A special joint Dublin Planning Commission & City Council workshop study session meeting was held on Thursday, November 15, 1990, in the Regional Meeting Room of the Dublin Civic Center. The meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m., by Mayor Moffatt. * * * ROLL CALL PRESENT: Councilmembers Hegarty, Jeffery, Vonheeder and Mayor Moffatt, and Planning Commissioner Springer. Cm. Snyder arrived at.the meeting at 8:20 p.m. Planning Commissioner Zika arrived at the meeting at 7:12 p.m., and Planning Commissioner Burnham arrived at the meeting at 7:30 p.m. ABSENT: Planning Commissioner Barnes. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Mayor led the Council, Staff and those present in the pledge of allegiance to the flag. EAST DUBLIN PLANNING WORKSHOP Planning Consultant Brenda Gillarde explained the purpose of the workshop and advised that we want to set a vision for East Dublin and set some land uses down on a map. What is done, however, will not be a final plan. There will be ample opportunities to discuss each aspect further. Ms. Gillarde explained that Dublin is at a very exciting point in its history. There are 7,000 acres on which to make choices and there are many trade offs which will have to be made. The plan will be subject to change even after it is adopted, as this is part of the process A certain amount of flexibility should be built in. This is the first of 4 workshops which will be held. Commissioner Zika requested copies of the County Agreement related to the tax money split and which would indicate what restrictions are on DUblin. Planning Director Tong advised that there was an agreement that was signed between Alameda County and the City of Dublin several years ago. This agreement provided for a land use commitment in that the City would continue the prezoning as business park industrial which would allow for a business park type use on the County's property. City Manager Ambrose advised that the agreement was forced upon the City in that you cannot get an annexation approved by LAFCO unless the City and County agree on a property tax split. Sales tax, property tax, transient occupancy tax, etc., would have to be subvented to the @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@, CM - VOL 9 - 313 Workshop, Study Session November 15, 1990 County. If the costs of services exceed 50% of the amount of revenue generated, then the County and the City must negotiate for any services above the 50% level. The Council, Commission and members of the audience were asked to discuss what they like about Dublin. Comments included: Central location to the Bay Area; Uncluttered open space; Stream corridor undeveloped, NE/NW Willow Creek; Concentration of business in area to create market niche; Schoolyards and parks give recreation opportunities to neighborhoods; People like to live here for amenities-library; City close, country quiet; People own their own homes; Street landscaping; Dublin pride - historic background; Churches; Crossroads of stagecoach routes, crossroads of 1-580/I-680; Maintain crossroads identity; Well balanced (has everything); Regional transportation availability (potential for new center/core); Schools; Been a first, set the pace; Interest in culture, new programs with City and community base; Majority of needs met within 5-7 minutes of town; Traffic circulation is adequate; Hills are not cluttered; Mix of housing, multi-family blends in well; Schools are located within new neighborhoods; Quiet, uncluttered character, good access; Availability of nearby employment; Clean air; Safe City, good police services; Crossroads of Valley, will be a commercial base again; Broad range of housing price availability; In Alameda County; Most beautiful civic center; Great library; Common vision of quality of community on the grow; Amador Lakes is an example of Dublin's vision. The Council, Commission and members of the audience were asked to discUss what they would change or add to Dublin. Comments included: No houses facing arterial streets; No trail system, complete and' comprehensive hike/bike/equestrian facilities along trails; Additional recreational facilities, golf emphasized, sports park, leisure parks not connected to schools; 200 person theatre and community meeting room; Designate land/fees in-lieu for park land, make formula fit needs; Create central commercial area, pedestrian core (Horton Plaza - Disneyland for shoppers); Big league identify to compete with surrounding cities, high profile attraction to create identity; More diversity in types/styles design of housing; Light rail or public transit alternatives; Go up in building height to create identity and attraction; Not too big; Do not ignore BART, especially around stations; Downtown will change - meet that change; No irrigated lawns; Creek development - better enhancement; Agency cooperation - part of trail system; Soundwalls, anticipate and provide; Do not open up existing creek areas; Parking pockets/shopping pockets, don't replicate Village Parkway, hidden, poor access; No man-made barriers in community; City more pedestrian and transit oriented; Parks for leisure; Big multi-functional park, multi-functional cultural center, large meeting hall; More moderate price housing; Parks adjacent to schools; Improve school quality and location; Greater density to take advantage of transportation nexus and to support commercial uses; High end housing which pays its own way; Senior housing and facilities; Uncrowded roads in future; Adequate tax-base to support vision, develop better; Augment tax base through retail sales tax; Schools in neighborhoods which are not a traffic hazard to children; Good ethnic grocery store; Major/master landscaping plan and streetscape plan so @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@, CM - VOL 9 - 3~4 Workshop, Study Session November 15, 1990 old and new Dublin are linked; Use creeks as Walkways/corridors within town; Preserve wildlife on creeks; Alternative/better circulation plan, specifically Doolan Canyon; Don't allow tilt-up construction with isolated access, integrate into the community; Don't duplicate Village Parkway; Strong economic base contributing to the community. Commissioner Burnham felt it was important to keep in mind "something for everyone" with regard to mixed housing. We need to go through this process more often in order that we can learn by our mistakes. Commissioner Zika stated he would like to get a housing balance based on the jobs generated. He was mainly concerned regarding jobs that we create here in Dublin. There should be housing for all income levels. Cm. Snyder felt that with regard to affordable housing issues, it does little good to look at the income levels of existing Dublin. We are planning for the future. Cm. Jeffery felt we have learned a lesson from neighboring communities in that if you have too much architecture that looks the same, you end up with "little boxes on the hillside". She would like to see some character and coordinated neighborhoods. She would not like to see more than 3 stories in height, but sometimes you have to make compromises. Cm. Vonheeder felt that the circulation issues were the main reason that this area was not planned when we first incorporated. We now have a wonderful opportunity to plan and we are trying to anticipate the needs in the next 15 years. We will need' to make some concessions, however, we still have people who want higher end homes. Mayor Moffatt felt we certainly need diversified housing and higher densities. We should designate the areas in which this can occur so that 10 or 20 years down the road we will be able to put these in and avoid the "not in my back yard" comments. Cm. Hegarty stated that in 1982 when the City incorporated, we tried to change and upgrade the image of Dublin. The money to pay for parks and other amenities comes from retail sales tax. We must, therefore, provide a good base for businesses to operate. Ms. Willits summarized all the comments and clarified that what everyone seemed to want with regard to housing is that all kinds of housing should be provided in East Dublin. We need some of everything. Retail uses was discussed. Commissioner Burnham felt that because we can't predict the future, flexibility will be the key. It is convenient for people to shop in Dublin. Commissioner Springer felt that neighborhood shopping is needed. He would like to see higher density uses, clustered around a town center. @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@, CM- VOL 9 - 315 Workshop, Study Session November 15, 1990 Commissioner Zika felt that clustered neighborhood centers are romantic, but that is not where California is now. He could see limited neighborhood centers, but it would be a 7-11, Circle C, or something like that. Dave Burton stated he would like to see a commercial corridor connecting East with West Dublin. Strip commercial or pocket commercial needs to be addressed. He indicated he favored strip commercial where you can drive up to a store and go in. Cm. Jeffery stated she has very strong feelings about what downtown Dublin should be. We should capitalize on what's successful for big ticket items. She felt Dublin should avoid strip type businesses. They do not service well other things we want to achieve, and are difficult to maintain. One of the strong points of any business district is that you have to go there and then you stop somewhere else along the way. We should put as much business in as concentrated an area as possible. You want a reason to pull people downtown, so most of your shopping should be in this area. Whatever we create in our business district is what we get. She indicated she was tired of spending her clothing dollars outside of Dublin. We need to take advantage of our location. We have the opportunity to grab them at One end of the City and take them clear through to the other end. Residential above stores does not work. However, it is very feasible to put a concentration of housing next to a business area. Mayor Moffatt felt that one of our biggest assets is 1-580. Businesses that need large exposure for advertising should be able to locate next to the freeway. Hotels, automobile dealerships, and large commercial ventures should go right along this corridor. Small retailers such as a grocery store and maybe 5 or so other service type stores could go in a residential area. However, you must have enough density to support these. Cm. Snyder stated with regard to an auto mall, he supports the concept, but we should not get too specific. We need to allow flexibility that businesses can stay in an area where they want. Cm. Snyder felt that 99% of what was being discussed is market driven. Cm. Vonheeder discussed a newspaper editorial published in 1980 discussing Dublin's downtown identity problems. She felt this was an opportunity and challenge for Dublin to change and improve existing areas. BART will have a major impact on Dublin. We must have the flexibility to connect to future uses. She indicated she did not particularly want to change much of what we have, but reality is that everything changes. We should use the freeway corridor to our advantage. She felt the major challenge will be to connect the 2 areas. Cm. Hegarty felt that downtown Dublin is well defined. We now should have space to go out and market for large organizations. We need to get into the mainstream of things and "go for it". There is no reason @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@.@,@.@,@,@.@.@, CM- VOL 9 - 3~6 Workshop, Stud~ Session Nove~er ~5, ~990 Dublin has to lose what it has; we are planning for the year 2010. We now have the opportunity to create the downtown that we want. Ms. Willits summarized that everyone seemed to want a downtown area with appropriate retail and residential around it. Retail opportunities should not be excluded as most are market driven. With regard to neighborhood services, those kinds of services that provide immediate neighborhood needs should be considered. Cm. Jeffery stated we need to capitalize on the niche that we have already created for ourselves, plus capitalize on the freeway location visibility. Mayor Moffatt felt that, if necessary, more meetings should be scheduled. Mr. Ambrose pointed out that if more meetings than were anticipated are held, a budget transfer of funds may be necessary. Staff advised that even though they didn't get as far as was hoped for on the agenda for this meeting, some very good information and direction was provided. This workshop discussion will be continued on the evening of December 6, 1990, beginning at 7:00 p.m. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 10:35 p.m. - k f ~i~. Clerk @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@,@, CM - VOL 9 - 3~7 Workshop, Stud~ Session Nove~er 15, 1990