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Reqular Meeting - June 7, 1993
A regular meeting of the City of Dublin Planning Commission was held on
June 7, 1993, in the Dublin Civic Center Council Chambers. The meeting
was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Commissioner Zika.
ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Burnham, Downey, North, Rafanelli and Zika;
Laurence L. Tong, Planning Director; David K. Choy, Associate Planner;
and Gail Adams, Recording Secretary.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
Cm. Zika led the Commission, Staff, and those present in the pledge of
allegiance to the flag.
ADDITIONS OR REVISIONS TO THE AGENDA
The minutes for May 25, 1993 were approved as submitted.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
SUBJECT: Election of Officers
Mr. Tong indicated that the Planning Commission would have normally
elected new officers at the first meeting in December 1992. However,
because of the circumstances involved with Valerie Barnes, the Commission
deferred the election until a new Commission member was selected. The
Council confirmed the selection of Dan Downey on May 24th and it would be
appropriate for the Commission to elect new officers at this time.
Cm. Rafanelli recommended that the officers stay as they were since they
would be another election at the end of the year.
Cm. North clarified that the same officers would be in effect from now
until 1994.
The Commission had no objections to keeping the existing elected officers
(Cm. Zika as Chairperson, Cm. Rafanelli as Vice-Chairperson, and Larry
Tong as Secretary).
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
Mr. Tong indicated that three letters were received regarding St.
Raymond's Church expansion.
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' PUBLIC HEARINGS
SUBJECT: PA 93-018 Tri-City Baptist Church Conditional Use Permit
reauest to allow the operation of a church facility within an
existing multi-tenant retail/office complex located at 6930 C/D
Village Parkway (continued from the May 25 1993 meeting~
Mr. Tong indicated that the traffic impact fee study to be done by the
Sr. Civil Engineer was not complete and Staff recommended continuing this
item to an undetermined date, the item would be re-noticed at that time.
Cm. Zika asked if there was an estimated date of completion for the
traf f ic study .
Mr. Tong replied that the study should be completed within 2 or 3 weeks
and Staff would then determine the need for a negative declaration, which
would need to meet the 3 week noticing time frame required by CEQA. If,
as a result of the traffic study the project is revised so that the
traffic improvement funds become part of the proposal, then we can simply
notice it for the 2-week time frame.
Cm. Zika clarified that the project could be expected back in early-July
and asked the Applicant how that time frame would effect them.
Mr. William Bryson, the Applicant, responded that a five-week delay would
be difficult for his church. He also pointed out that on the original
application a traffic impact study was deemed unnecessary and the draft
staff report mentioned nothing of an impact study. He felt it was a last
minute decision to add the traffic impact study in lieu of the 8-foot
sidewalk and he was not sure how the sidewalk improvements and traffic
fee could be linked.
Cm. Zika explained that in the Staff presentation it was indicated that a
traffic impact fee could be paid in lieu of an 8-foot sidewalk. At the
last meeting, the Commission raised a concern that the sidewalk repair
was a policy matter that would have to be taken to the City Council.
This application was the first in a series of properties that would be
required to widen the sidewalk on Village Parkway. To his knowledge, the
Commission had no authority to forgive a traffic impact fee. He further
explained that everyone who causes additional traffic on the streets must
pay a traffic impact fee.
Mr. Bryson expressed concern that since the Traffic Impact Fee was not
mentioned in the application or the draft Staff Report that it may not be
necessary and requested that the Commission deem it unnecessary.
Cm. Zika acknowledged the suggestion, however, indicated that the
Commission did not have the authority to forgive the traffic study. He
asked Staff if the church congregation could move into the new site
without violating any laws.
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Mr. Tong responded that they could not move into the site because the '
whole project was based on the enlarged facility, which the Traffic
Impact Study would be based upon.
Cm. Rafanelli asked the Applicant how long they expected the building
modifications to take.
Mr. Bryson indicated that they expected their renovations to take 2 days.
They had already lined up help, which is why the 5-week delay would be a
hardship.
Cm. North questioned Staff if it takes 3 weeks to get the traffic study,
how much time including the re-noticing, would it take to bring the
application back to Planning Commission.
Mr. Tong responded that if the traffic study took 3 weeks, it would be
two additional weeks depending upon which provision of State law is
applicable. If there is a negative declaration, then there is a minimum
of a 3-week noticing time period. If it does not need a negative
declaration, then we can meet the 2-week public noticing requirements.
Cm. North clarified that it would take five to six weeks from tonight and
the Applicant has already waited two weeks.
Mr. Tong concurred with Cm. North's calculations.
Cm. Zika asked Staff if the Applicant could submit a$500 deposit toward
the traffic mitigation fee.
Mr. Bryson indicated that $500 had already been paid toward the fee.
Mr. Tong responded that the $500 previously deposited was to pay for the
potential staff time for the study; the traffic impact fee would be
separate. He also indicated that a deposit would be inappropriate in
that it would pre-judge the amount of the fee, even though the traffic
fee may be less than $500.
Cm. North recalled from the May 24, 1993 meeting that it was estimated to
take no more than two days for the Sr. Civil Engineer to complete this
study.
Mr. Tong concurred with Cm. North's recollection and indicated that the
Sr. Civil Engineer has not, to date, been able to complete the traffic
study.
Cm. Zika questioned if this project could be moved up on the Sr. Civil
Engineer's priority list.
Mr. Tong responded that the high priority of this item has been
indicated; however, certain Tri-Valley Transportation Plan items for the
City Council have kept him from completing this traffic study.
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Cm. North questioned Staff if there were other options available other
than just wait 5 or 6 weeks.
Mr. Tong recommended that the Applicant work as closely as possible with
the Sr. Civil Engineer to complete the traffic study.
Mr. Bryson reiterated that it was his hopes to have the necessity of the
traffic study re-evaluated.
Cm. North recalled from the staff report that the sidewalk expansion
could be done in lieu of the traffic impact fee study.
Mr. Bryson agreed and reiterated that the staff report was the first
place the traffic study was identified.
Cm. North asked Staff if the City Council had the authority to waive the
Traffic Impact Fee.
Mr. Tong responded that, to his knowledge, on the Public Works Director's
recommendations, modifications to the fee could be made; however, that
presumes that there is some study that backs up the fee in the first
place and, at this point, there is no traffic study completed.
Cm. North clarified that the Council, on its own authority, cannot waive
the traffic impact fee.
Mr. Tong indicated that they could not and also be in compliance with
their own ordinance. He stated that traffic study would need to be in
place to determine what it was the Council was waiving.
Mr. Bryson asked if there was a certain volume increase that stipulates
the requirement of a traffic impact fee.
Mr. Tong indicated that it would depend on the increase of peak hour
trips to the surrounding intersections that are subject to improvement.
Mr. Bryson clarified and the Commission agreed that the section of the
original application which was marked "N/A" for the need for a traffic
impact fee study was mis-marked.
Cm. Zika consoled the Applicant and stated that every time a traffic
impact fee study came up there seemed to be a problem.
The Planning Commission continued the item indefinitely.
SUBJECT: PA 93-022 St Raymond's Church Expansion Site Development
Review/Conditional Use Permit agproval to allow the
construction of a new two-story +20,600 square foot Parish
Center/Classroom buildinq with related site work and
landscaping and expansion of the community facility use located
at 11555 Shannon Avenue
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Cm. Zika noted that three of the Commissioners were members of the Parish
and indicated that, according to Staff, there would be no conflict of
interest because they did not serve on the parish Board of Directors or
have any financial interest in the church.
Cm. Zika opened the public hearing and asked for the staff report.
Mr. David Choy presented the staff report to the Commission. He noted
that three letters from adjacent residents were received at tonight's
meeting.
Cm. North referred to page 10, referencing Phase III and asked how tall
the building was.
Mr. Choy indicated that an elevation plan was not submitted for Phase
III, as it was not a part of the project being reviewed tonight.
Cm. North referred to page 12 and asked how tall was the roof structure.
Mr. Choy stated that the roof was proposed to be 37 feet tall.
Cm. Zika referred to page 9 of 36, referencing traffic flow and asked if
the traffic would be moving in a west to east direction.
Mr. Choy pointed out the new configuration just west of the new building.
The bulb would allow vehicles to turn around and use the new drop off
zone in front of the building.
Cm. Zika noted there was a loop on the east side of the building and
asked why the vehicles could not utilize this driveway area.
Mr. Choy commented that this site had a campus setting and the through
traffic was being eliminated. The turnaround provided facilitated this
objective. i
Cm. North was concerned about the increased traffic next to the
residential neighborhood. ~I
Cm. Burnham asked how many students would be allowed with the Phase 1 '
plan.
Mr. Choy stated that there were 250 students now and this figure would
increase to 315.
Cm. North noted there would be a significant increase in traffic along
the new loop roadway.
Cm. Burnham asked if there was a geological or physical reason for the
site to be developed as shown on the plans.
Mr. Choy explained that there were trace faults identified on the site
and referred the Commission to page 9 of 36. The fault setback was 50
f eet .
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David Goldin, Architect, gave a brief history of the project and
described the proposed plan. He commented that the classroom building
would be the first phase and the parking and circulation was being
improved. He noted that there were trace fault lines and had to make
modifications to accommodate the fault setback requirements. As a
result, he created a better design than what had previously been worked
on.
Mr. Goldin commented that the cul-de-sac bulb is the only major change to
the traffic circulation pattern. He indicated that the building could
not be seen from the streets and the exits and entrances to the classroom
were on the inner portion of the building. The building code would not
allow the building to be any closer to the Hall itself and every attempt
was made to create a building compatible to its surroundings.
Mr. Goldin indicated that he was in agreement with the conditions of
approval and it had been a pleasure working with Staff on this project.
He described the residential neighborhood behind the church property and
pointed out on the aerial what the area looked like before the portables
were built.
Mr. Goldin stated that there would be a slight increase in traffic;
however, it would take a number of years for the student enrollment to
increase to its maximum amount. A lot of families have several students
enrolled and would be utilizing one vehicle.
Cm. North asked for clarification on the traffic circulation at the east
side of the property.
Mr. Goldin explained that the cul-de-sac was an added feature. Vehicles
would drive thru and loop around to drop off the students next to the
classroom building. There was additional parking added as well. He
commented that Phase III would not be completed for at least 5-10 years.
Cm. North referred to the landscaping on the west side of the parking lot
and asked how tall the trees would be in 5 years.
Mr. Nicol noted that in 5 years, the trees would be about 25 feet by 8-10
feet wide. These are very narrow growing trees so that they would not
grow out over the property line.
Mr. Goldin stated that the Planning Staff recommended that we put in the
trees.
Cm. North noted that the trees might block out the sunlight.
Cm. Zika asked the Applicant if they would be willing to supply a two
foot fence extension to the neighbors adjacent to the church property.
Mr. Goldin asked if this would be a eondition of approval.
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Mr. Choy explained that if a condition of approval was added to the
Cortditional Use Permit resolution, the fence height could exceed the
maximum 6 foot height. '
Cm. North asked about the design of the classroom windows.
Mr. Goldin indicated the windows were to be obscured, opening to a
maximum of 30 degrees out. He referred to the site distance drawing and
indicated that the residence would be able to see the top 1 foot of the
building. With a 6 foot fence, you would be able to see the bottom foot
of the door. He had been surprised that there was a concern with the
building site distance from the neighbors.
Cm. Burnham asked how height was used in the site distance calculations.
Mr. Goldin indicated an average height person was used to calculate the
site distance.
Clifford Erb, standing in for his brother, Richard Erb, 7937 Shannon
Avenue, read a letter to the Planning Commission regarding his brother's
concerns with the project, which included the location of the proposed
structure, noise, early trash pick-up, visual impacts, site elevations,
privacy, school enrollment, and increased traffic. This letter was
handed to the Commission and reviewed by Staff. He indicated that he
would like to see the project disapproved.
Mike Woods, 7949 Shannon Court, submitted a petition to the Planning
Commission indicating that their main concern was with the two-story '
structure. He indicated that the residential lots were actually 1 to 2
feet higher in elevation compared to the church. He was concerned about
the trees shedding their leaves into his pool, the increase in traffic
and noise levels.
Mr. Choy stated that a noise level study had not been conducted.
Mr. Wood was concerned about the safety of the children being that the
building was two stories and the site was on a fault line. He had no ~
objections to a one-story building.
Mr. Carlos Herrera was concerned about the playground located next to his
back fence. He indicated the children have destroyed the fence in the '
past and there is a lot of noise. The children also throw rocks and dirt
into his yard which is about 12 feet from the playground.
Dennis Schaefer, 7974 Shannon Court, had concerns with the safety of the
students since this was a two-story structure and was built on a site
with a fault line. '
John Nicol, landscape architect, indicated that the western boundary was II~'~,
designed with a strong landscaping plan with an arcade of shrub
standards, such as Indian Harthorne. The shrubbery would be '
approximately 4 feet wide, 7-10 feet high and were evergreens. ~I
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Cm. North asked the Applicant if the building was designed with seismic
' standards.
Mr. Goldin indicated yes. The main trunk of the Calaveras fault is
located along San Ramon Road. There were trace faults identified on the
site but there has been no activity for 15-20,000 years. He indicated he
has been working with Vic Taugher, the Building Official, and the
criteria was comparable to any public school standard regulations.
Cm. North asked what effect the proposed State voucher system might have
on enrollments.
The pastor of the church indicated that he did not know what effects it
might have and that there was a waiting list for the kindergarten class.
Cm. North stated that he had looked at the site from 7925 Shannon Court's
backyard and he could see the ground where the proposed building would be
located.
Cm. Zika asked if the Applicant was willing to pay for the installation
of two foot fence extensions.
Mr. Goldin indicated there was obscure glass on the classroom windows and
did not see the need for the fence extensions. He asked if the fence
would be for the three properties adjacent to the back of the lot only.
Cm. Burnham felt that the two foot fence extension would only solve some
of the concerns regarding privacy.
Cm. North questioned who should be responsible for paying for the fence
extension.
Cm. Zika felt that the Applicant should take care of the cost - the one
who causes the change should pay for the inconvenience.
Cm. Rafanelli noted that there were eight properties affected by this
development.
Cm. Burnham commented that the residents would like to see a one-story
building.
Mr. Goldin felt that the proposed plan was an efficient use of space.
The school was growing and there was a need for additional parking and
playground uses. The existing portable classroom buildings would need to
be closed down since there was a limited amount of space available.
Cm. Burnham noted that the garbage collector usually picked up at 4:30
a.m. and asked if there was something that could be done about changing
the time.
Mr. Tong indicated that the Livermore-Dublin Disposal Company had been
contacted and we were waiting for a response.
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Cm. North had concerns with the loop turn-around and asked if the
' driveway could continue to run through the property.
Mr. Golden indicated that it was possible; however, there is a concern
with the children's safety.
Cm. Rafanelli noted that there would be noise level increases due to the
additional students. During the day, it would not be a problem; however,
he felt that the cones should be removed during peak hours to allow
traffic to move around the property.
The pastor of the church indicated this could be accomplished.
Cm. Zika closed the public hearing.
Cm. North was concerned with the landscaping and traffic circulation.
Cm. Rafanelli had concerns with the traffic and noise levels. He felt
that the church should sit down with their adjacent neighbors and work
out all of the concerns and the church needed to be sensitive to their
needs.
Cm. Zika had concerns with the traffic flow and felt that the church
should get together with the neighbors and work out their problems. He
indicated that the neighbor's fence should be extended two feet on both
sides of the church's property (west and sauth side).
Cm. Burnham concurred with the Commission. He felt that the two-story
addition was an invasion of privacy and preferred to see-a single-story
structure. He was concerned with the visibility, noise and traffic
issues.
Cm. North noted that Phase III would be adding a two-story structure and
would have the same concerns and felt that the fence needed to be
extended along the west side as well as the south side of the property.
Cm. Downey commented that most people when they look out their backyards
would see the back of another house and did not see a major difference.
Cm. North noted that the houses were bought before the two-story building
was proposed.
The Planning Commission and Staff discussed the changes to be made to the
conditions of approval.
Mr. Tong pointed out that there were four homes on the south side behind
the playground that would need fence extensions.
On motion from Cm. Downey, with revisions regarding traffic flow, two-
foot fence extensions, and landscaping, seconded by Cm. Rafanelli, and
with a vote of 3-2, the Planning Commission adopted
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RESOLIITION NO. 93-024
ADOPTING A NEGATIVE DECLARATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL SIGNIFICANCE FOR PA 93-
022 ST. RAYMOND'S CHURCH E%PANSION SITE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW/CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT REQUEST AT 11555 SHANNON AVENUE
RESOLUTION NO. 93-025
APPROVING PA 93-022 ST. RAYMOND'S CHURCH EXPANSION CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
APPLICATION TO ALLO~P EXPANSION OF THE COMMONITY FACILITY OSE ON THE
EXISTING APPROXIMATE 9 ACRE PARCEL
RESOLOTION NO. 93-026
APPROVING PA 93-022 ST. RAYMOND'S CHURCH E7CPANSION SITE DEVELOPMENT
REVIEW APPLICATION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO STORY ±20~400 SQUARE
FOOT PARISH CENTER/CLABSROOM BUILDING ~ITH RELATED SITE WORR AND
LANDSCAPING AT 11555 SBANNON AVENUE
Mr. Tong explained the appeal process to the concerned residents and
indicated that the project would be final in 10 days.
NEW OR UNFINISHED BUSINESS
None
OTHER BUSINESS
None
COMMISSIONER'S CONCERNS
None
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
Resp~fully submitted,
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Laurence L. Tong
Planning Director
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