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~ Regular Meeting - September 16, 1991
A regular meeting of the City of Dublin Planning Commission was held
on September 16, 1991, in the Dublin Civic Center Council Chambers.
The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Commissioner Burnham,
Chairperson.
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ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Barnes, Burnham, North, Rafanelli and Zika;
Laurence L. Tong, Planning Director; Maureen O'Halloran, Senior
Planner; David Choy, Associate Planner; Carol Cirelli, Associate
Planner; and Angie Stepp, Recording Secretary.
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PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
Cm. Burnham led the Commission, Staff, and those present in the pledge
of allegiance to the flag.
ADDITIONS OR REVISION TO THE AGENDA
None
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
The Minutes of September 3, 1991 were approved with two minor
corrections. Cm. Rafanelli was incorrectly named as present instead
of Cm. Zika. Under Planning Commissioners' Concerns, Cm. Burnham
stated he expressed concern regarding JL Construction's landscaping
the creek and not Cm. Zika.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
None
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
SUBJECT: PA 91-061 East-West Karate Conditional Use Permit to allow
the operation of a karate school (recreation facility) in a
C-2-B-40, General Commercial Combining District Zone located
at 7102 Village Parkway
Cm. Burnham opened the public hearing and asked for the staff report.
Ms. Cirelli presented the staff report to the Commission.
Cm. Zika commented that the reason a Conditional Use Permit did not
previously exist was discovered when the Applicant applied for a
business license; he questioned as to how many more businesses exist
like that.
Ms. 0'Halloran stated maybe a dozen in which some aspect of the
business may require a Conditional Use Permit.
Cm. Zika asked if this was a standard procedure when a business
license is obtained, that proper permits are checked out.
Ms. 0'Halloran stated yes.
Mr. Tong stated part of that procedure has been recently facilitated
by the development of our new street address filing system.
Cm. Burnham questioned as to the correct legal ownership of the
property.
Mr. Tong stated he believed the City Attorney's office is still
investigating the legality of the subdivision. However, according to
the assessor's records, Mr. Hucke is the property owner.
The Applicant's wife, Ms. Hanamura, was present and stated the use of
the facility was the same, only the management had changed in 1982.
There were no further questions from the Commissioners.
Cm. Burnham closed the public hearing.
On motion from Cm. North, seconded by Cm. Rafanelli, and with a vote
of 5-0, the Commission adopted
RESOLUTION NO. 91-061
APPROVING PA 91-061 EAST-WEST KARATE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW
THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A KARATE SCHOOL (RECREATION FACILITY) AT
7102 VILLAGE PARKWAY IN A C-2-B-40, GENERAL COMMERCIAL
COMBINING DISTRICT ZONE
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NEW AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS
SUBJECT: Review of Draft Site Develapment Review Guidelines
Cm. Burnham opened the new business and asked for the staff report.
Mr. Choy presented the staff report to the Commission. He indicated
the guidelines are procedures for the city to protect the public
welfare and the environment. He presented a slide show of each major
component of design criteria that defined the basic principles of Site
Development Review and requested that questions be held to the end of
each presentation.
He indicated Staff was seeking input and direction from the Commission
to forward to the City Council regarding the Site Development Review
Guidelines.
Site Planning
Mr. Choy explained that the site planning policies combine the three
major elements of developments: buildings, parking & circulation, and
landscape & amenities. Applications are reviewed to ensure that they
are compatible, and in proper balance with the existing or proposed
area setting.
Cm. North questioned the use of deciduous and evergreen trees.
Mr. Tong explained that deciduous trees help provide shelter from the
sun in the summertime and allow sunlight to filter through during the
winter, whereas an evergreen tree might also provide some protection
from the rain.
Cm. North stated there are certain types of oak trees that do not lose
their leaves, nor grow as tall, called a brown oak. He stated if the
purpose was to have a tree that provides a canopy of shade, then why
not restrict it to one that does not lose its leaves.
Mr. Tong explained Staff is seeking a balance between various elements
and how well a particular tree would fit into the overall landscaping.
Cm. North stated that from an economical point, most deciduous trees
are less expensive.
Mr. Choy suggested having the deciduous trees located next to the
building, whereas you would have shade in the summer and light in the
winter.
Cm. North stated the leaves of deciduous trees need to be raked and
disposed of, causing a lot of problems.
Cm. Zika disagreed with Cm. North; he liked trees with leaves on them.
He also questioned the distribution of compact parking spaces and
asked if there was a ratio of compact parking spaces for businesses.
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_ Mr. Choy stated 35% of the required parking spaces for businesses may
be designated for compact vehicles.
Ms. O'Halloran indicated the Parking Ordinance does not address
compact spaces but Staff has been allowing them at a 35~ ratio; this
number comes from the condominium guidelines established by the City.
Cm. Zika suggested that the compact parking spaces be placed further
away from the front of the building.
Mr. Tong stated that Staff has attempted to intersperse the compact
parking spaces with the regular size spaces so that there is a mixture
throughout the parking areas.
Cm. Zika stated that the problem is people will park a regular size
car in a compact size parking space.
Mr. Tong stated that the objective is to mix the compact stalls
throughout the parking area to accommodate them and at the same time,
discourage the larger cars from parking in a smaller area.
Cm. Burnham asked what the difference in size was between a compact
and regular parking space.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated a compact parking space is 8' wide and 17'
deep as compared to a regular parking space which is 9' wide and 20'
deep.
Cm. Burnham asked what the advantage is for compact spaces.
Mr. Choy indicated that one more space can be squeezed into an area
that may be required for a project. He also stated that car sizes are
becoming smaller and more people are driving smaller cars.
Cms. Burnham and North inquired as to the benefit to the City of
compact parking spaces.
Mr. Tong indicated that compact parking spaces utilize an area more
efficiently such as providing for additional landscaping and
pedestrian walkways.
Cm. Barnes indicated she hopes that the City does not go above the 350
allotment, because many compact cars currently use regular size
parking spaces. She also expressed her preference for using deciduous
trees. She stated that many parking lots manage to clean up a lot of
other things along with raking up the leaves. She asked what the
impact would be by lowering the 35~ compact car allotment, and
inquired if landscaping would be sacrificed.
Mr. Tong stated that landscaping is not necessarily sacrificed as you
would be establishing a lower threshold.
Cm. Barnes asked for clarification of double striping of parking
spaces.
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Mr. Tong indicated that double striping does not effect the parking
~ space size. However, he stated it does effectively help people park
their cars within the designated space.
Cm. Barnes expressed that the City of Dublin has very adequate
parking, and felt a lot of our parking lot problems are due to an
insufficient amount of shopping cart rack spaces.
Cm. North concurred that there should be more shopping cart rack
spaces.
Mr. Tong indicated that the space saved by utilizing the compact
parking stalls could be used for a shopping cart rack.
Cm. Barnes reiterated her request to have more shopping cart racks.
Mr. Tong indicated that shopping cart racks would be something to
consider as a Site Development Review guideline as the City does not
have a shopping cart rack ratio at this point.
Cm. North asked if there was a ratio for handicapped parking spaces.
Mr. Choy indicated that handicapped parking spaces was handled through
the State Title 24 requirements.
Mr. Tong concurred that handicapped parking spaces was handled through
State law and that there is an actual schedule put out by the State
and enforced through the Building Department, both the number as well
as the physical signage dimensions.
Cm. Rafanelli asked if grading the site for proper drainage falls
under the Site Development Review guidelines.
Mr. Tong indicated that is something that is checked primarily by the
Building and Engineering Departments. The Building Codes require that
there is positive drainage around the house at the time it is
finalled. However, the homeowner may not account for proper drainage
in their landscaping.
Cm. North suggested that we make a grading design for spas, patios,
and swimming pools to conform to the original grading design.
Mr. Tong felt that those three items don't necessarily affect the
grading.
Cm. North felt that the drainage requirement should be enforced.
Mr. Tong indicated that he meant to say that the Building Inspection
Department enforces the drainage requirements. He felt the homeowner
has a responsibility to provide for positive drainage whether or not a
permit was issued.
Cm. North indicated that if the City doesn't ensure the drainage is
adequate, then who is suppose to do this if it effects the neighbors.
The only recourse the neighbor has is to go to civil court.
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~ Cm. North indicated he felt it was the duty of the City to protect all
of the citizens when a building permit is approved.
Cm. Burnham asked if there was a difference if you build a pool or
plant shrubs and have your water drain into three neighbor's yards.
Mr. Tong felt the main difference is the order of magnitude. A spa or
gazebo is typically an over the counter permit which can be issued
with a minimal amount of paperwork. They are considered accessory
structures and are a matter of scale. He indicated if a hameowner is
putting in a room addition, then the City's existing policies are that
the Building Inspection Division will require the positive drainage
because it is part of the Building Code. He felt that a large
percentage of drainage problems are created by the landscaping, with
the exception of the sprinkler permits as there are no building
permits whatsoever for 99% of the landscaping.
Cm. Burnham concurred with Cm. North as to why the City is allowing
homeowners with level properties to build higher than his neighbor.
He felt the City was saying it is the homeowner's responsibility to
have positive drainage.
Mr. Tong indicated from a practical standpoint, it gets extremely
difficult to enforce that type of detail on relatively minor permits.
The drainage on spas, gazebos, and swimming pools is looked at as an
automatic responsibility of the property owner. If the property owner
creates a problem for themselves or their neighbors, then it is the
responsibility of that property owner to take care of the problem.
Cm. Barnes indicated she felt that responsibility belongs in the
courts and not in the City.
Mr. Tong indicated the City is looking towards an educational program
through the Building Department to educate the owner/builder in terms
of the various codes; and hopefully, the item of drainage will be
discussed during those educational sessions.
Cm. North felt that when a permit is issued, the City should attach a
notice to the permit indicating that drainage is the property owner's
responsibility. He felt that this was not a difficult problem when a
permit is issued and stated, at present, we assume the property owner
is aware of this.
Mr. Tong stated that advising the property owner of his responsibility
pertaining to drainage is something that is not a standard matter.
However, he stated it could be mentioned to the Building Official for
consideration.
Cm. Burnham asked if there was a minimum tree clearance.
Mr. Tong indicated the rule of thumb is to stay out of the drip line.
When there is encroachment into that drip line, the City tries to
minimize the effects.
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~ Cm. Burnham commented on the 'Good Guys' parking lot in the Enea Plaza
~ Center which looks nice but you don't know where to drive in or out.
Cm. Burnham asked if there was a way to not allow landscaping on the
end of a parking strip.
Mr. Tong indicated that an effective way to deal with this is to add
an additional one-foot wide stepping plate and minimize the
landscaping at the end stall, instead of the standard 6" curb; this
gives an additional all weather surface area. He indicated the
landscaping in those parking areas should account for the door swings
and the height of overhangs.
Landscape Design
Mr. Choy stated that landscape design should exhibit a theme or
concept throughout the landscaping, rather than just randomly placing
trees and shrubs around the site.
Cm. Rafanelli felt there should be something in the guidelines about
using drought resistant shrubs and trees where appropriate.
Mr. Choy expressed that the Planninq Staff now has an Intern who has a
degree in landscape architecture and Staff might be able to call upon
some of his expertise to develop an appropriate tree and plant list
for the City of Dublin.
Mr. Tong commented that a recently passed State law indicates that b~r
1993 every land use jurisdiction will be required to have an ordinance
which provides for water conservation through landscaping. He stated
that the Planning Staff and the Dublin San Ramon Services District
Staff have met to begin looking at what type of ordinance would be
appropriate for water efficient landscaping purposes for the City.
Cm. Barnes indicated her preference of predominantly live ground eover
as indicated in Item #10.
Cm. Burnham asked if the City has a rule about cutting trees that have
reached a certain size.
Mr. Tong stated that there was no such rule. He indicated that some
cities do have what is called a'heritage tree' ordinance, whereby, if
a tree reaches a particular size or is of a particular species, it
then is given some significance to the City and there are permits
established for removal of that tree and what type of replacement
would be necessary, if any.
Cm. Burnham felt that the City needs something like that for future
development on the hills.
Mr. Tong stated that when an Applicant comes in for Site Development
Review, they must indicate the existing trees on their site but there
is no ordinance which would prevent them from removing some of those
trees prior to filing an application for Site Development Review.
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` Cm. Burnham asked if the City could do anything about removal of a
tree prior to filing for Site Development Review.
Mr. Tong indicated there was nothing the City could do under the
existing ordinances.
Cm. Burnham asked if the City could look into a proposal for a
heritage tree ordinance.
Mr. Tong responded that Staff would look into it.
Architecture and Building Design
Mr. Choy indicated the intent of architecture/building design policies
are to provide a sense of entry or focal point and are more directed
towards standards of quality and compatibility of the design than
achieving a uniform appearance.
Cm. North questioned #12, page 24, if permanent landscaping is
required for a building that may only exist three months.
Mr. Tong indicated that if the structure will remain for any length of
time, then the City would require some permanent landscaping; if the
structure will remain for a short duration, i.e. construction office,
then permanent landscaping is not needed. It is just a matter of
degree.
Cm. Barnes commented on item 9, page 24 regarding building color. She
felt, at times, the City needs to accept certain 'signing' of the
building and noted Red Lobster and Circuit City as examples. She
would like to see a little more imaginative use of color in buildings.
Cm. Burnham asked for an example of a"signing" of a building.
Mr. Choy stated that this policy was intended to develop some sense of
balance of landscaping and architecture, rather than having the
building stand out by itself.
Cm. Burnham asked if what Mr. Choy was indicating was something like
Casper's hot dog, designing the building to look like a hot dog and a
bun.
Mr. Choy concurred.
Cm. Burnham commended Staff for what they have and have not passed
with regard to architectural design.
Residential Design
Mr. Choy explained the primary theme in the residential design section
includes maintaining and improving the appearance and safety of
neighborhoods.
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Cm. Zika questioned item 12, page 29 regarding automatic garage door
~ openers.
Mr. Choy explained that the intent was to discourage residents from
parking in areas that have insufficient parking space and to encourage
residents to utilize their garages.
Cm. North suggested posting 'no parking signs' because patrons utilize
their garages for storage and park in the driveways anyway.
'Mr. Choy stated that would depend on the design of the project.
Mr. Tong explained that if the drive way request is for less than 20
feet, Staff typically asks for a roll-up garage door and automatic
opener as a condition of approval.
Cm. Barnes asked if the City can designate how wide carports are in
multiple living dwellings since she felt that the carports were a
little narrow.
Cm. North asked if carports have the same 8 foot requirements as
garages.
Mr. Tong stated that carports are standard size stalls. The City does
not allow compact size carports.
Cm. Barnes commented about the lack of vehicle accessibility presently
experienced in existing two-car garages.
Mr. Tong stated the City has implemented the two-car parking
requirement on single-family dwelling units and that residents are not
required to park their car in the garage.
Cm. Burnham asked if a State law exists whereby one cannot legally
park their car in their driveway overnight.
Mr. Tong commented that he was unaware of any such law; however, he
did indicate a law whereby cars cannot be parked on the street longer
than 72 hours without being moved.
Cm. North questioned if the law states anything about the adequacy of
on-site laundry facilities in multiple family residential units, as
stated on page 31, item 20.
Mr. Tong stated that is more of a Planned Development guideline.
Cm. Burnham asked if these are the guidelines that are presently in
effect.
Mr. Tong stated that these are draft site development review
guidelines brought to the Commission for discussion purposes and
input. After the various concerns of the Commissioners are addressed,
they will be formally brought back to the Commission.
Cm. Burnham asked if the City had any current guidelines.
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~ Mr. Tong stated no; current site development review guidelines do not
exist; however the City does have informal planned development review
guidelines that it has been using for planned development projects.
Cm. North requested that the Commission have at least two weeks to
review substantial amounts of reading materials. Three days is
insufficient to read over a hundred pages of text.
Cm. Barnes asked if residential/commercial lighting comes into the
guidelines. She felt that adequate lighting was an item the City
lacks in their residential areas.
Industrial Desiqn
Mr. Choy stated the industrial design policies are for areas where
industrial uses are interspersed with residential uses, whereby height
and setbacks shall be compatible.
There were no questions or comments from the Commissioners.
Signing
Mr. Choy explained that Signing policies should be designed and scaled
to relate to the building upon which it is attached and oriented to
the entrance. He stated Staff is encouraging the use of original
signs and reproductions of signs in historic areas.
Cm. Burnham stated obviously these guidelines tie in with our sign
ordinance.
Cm. Zika commented he felt Staff was on the right track and liked the
idea of encouraging the original signs. He commended Mr. Choy on his
presentation.
Cm. Barnes emphasized benches in shopping centers adds so much to the
community.
Cm. Rafanelli agreed with Cm. Barnes that our commercial places should
be gathering places for the community. He also felt that the whole
proposal was very well presented.
Cm. Burnham agreed with everyone and felt Staff was on the right
track. He also commended Mr. Choy on his presentation. He did
indicate, however, that he wished he had had more time to read each
section more thoroughly.
Mr. Tong stated he felt the Commission has given Staff a lot of good
insights and a number of concerns in areas that Staff needs to do more
research on. He indicated that when the item is brought back to the
Commission, more time will be given for its review.
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, Cm. North requested a minimum of two weeks for review of a document of
substantial reading material.
Mr. Tong stated California Building Systems has offered to make a
slide presentation to the Planning Commission on community design
guidelines for metal buildings. If the Commission is interested,
Staff will make arrangements for a review at a future date.
Cm. Barnes commented that she would be interested in the slide
presentation for metal buildings.
SUBJECT: PA 91-067 Ordinance Amendment Manaqement Audit related to
the Administrative Conditional Use Permit, Conditional Use
Permit and Site Development Review process and establishing
a Zoning Clearance Process
Cms. Zika and North began discussing the item without Staff
presentation, indicating their concern that there was insufficient
time to discuss some major significant concerns.
Cm. Burnham asked if there were any outstanding concerns to clear up.
Cm. Zika stated his major concern was the public's interest as to
neighborhood proposals. He brought up Regional Ambulance. He has
long been an advocate of notifying every resident within 300 feet of a
planned item.
Cm. North commented he would like to see as a reguirement that a
Conditional Use Permit and public hearing be required anytime a 24-
hour business is allowed within 300 feet of a residential area. He
stated that there are items that are decided by the Zoning
Administrator and/or Planning Director which have no appeal process
and felt that there should not be any action taken by a city official
that cannot be appealed, excluding the City Council.
Mr. Tong explained that those particular items are at the direction of
the Council. The Council has indicated that they would like to see
certain permits streamlined as an over-the-counter type application.
These applications do not have an appeal. This is the direction that
was given by the City Council regarding the Management Audit items.
Cm. North stated he felt that there were several items that should or
should not be appealable.
Cm. Zika questioned why the items were being brought to the Commission
if this is what the City Council wants.
Mr. Tong explained that the Ordinance Amendment Management Audit
is presented to the Commission in order for the Commissioners to
indicate their concerns and comments which are then presented as a
recommendation to the City Council. Whether the Council follows the
recommendation or not is the Council's prerogative.
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Cm. Barnes asked if this item was on a special time requirement.
Mr. Tong indicated there was no specific time constraint.
Cm. Barnes requested that this item be continued in order to give the
Commission more time to thoroughly read and comment on the Draft
Amendments.
At the request of the Commission, Item 9.2 was continued to the
November 4, 1991 Planning Commission.
Cm. Burnham questioned nonappealable decisions by city officials.
Mr. Tong explained this was discussed at the study sessions regarding
the Management Audit.
Mr. Tong explained that certain decisions by city officials occur
every day. However, he stated that someone can request the Council to
change the Council's ordinances/resolution. The main focus of the
management audit study was to streamline operations, making it more
efficient, while maintaining the effectiveness of good decision
making.
Cm. Burnham agreed but stated he felt there exists a gray area in
regards to the ambulance operation in a residential area. He felt
that the ambulance operation was legally in there but was also
breaking the law by exceeding the noise level within a residential
establishment.
Cm. Zika stated that emergency vehicles were exempt from the noise
level ordinance by the State of California and therefore, none of the
above applies to them.
Cm. Burnham asked if all of the underlined reading matter are changes
or additions to the ordinance.
Ms. O'Halloran stated they are the major changes.
Mr. Tong reiterated that this item will be brought back to the
Commission as a study session item.
Commission concurred.
OTHER BUSINESS
Mr. Tong stated that at the September 23, 1991 City Council meeting,
the City Council will consider the housing related ordinances that the
Planning Commission had recommended for action. This would include
the second readings of the Rental Availability Ordinance, the JL
Construction planned development rezoning, the Density Bonus
Ordinance, and Chevron Conditional Use Permit.
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PLANNING COMMISSIONERS' CONCERNS
Cm. Burnham asked what the time frame was for the Dublin Boulevard
Extension.
Mr. Tong stated that the Public Works Director has been working with
the City Attorney's office discussing with various property owners the
acquisition of the property. He believed that the road way should be
under construction by this time next year. He stated the City has
hired a civil engineer to do the civil engineering work.
Cm. North asked how long does the civil engineer anticipate
construction to take.
Mr. Tong stated he believed that construction should take about a
year.
Cm. North felt that this statement was different from what was advised
to the RV Center from last month's meeting.
Cm. Barnes was concerned about the sign for American Furniture, behind
the Crown bookstore. She felt that store was getting a little bit
heavy on the signage.
Ms. 0'Halloran asked if this was temporary signage.
Cm. Barnes stated that it was.
Cm. Burnham was concerned about the used car lot located near the
Southern Pacific right-of-way on Dougherty Road. He stated the cars
just seem to keep multiplying and they never seem to have any stickers
on them. He asked if a 72-hour notice needs to be met before the cars
are tagged.
Ms. O'Halloran stated Mr. Ralph Kachadourian, Zoning Investigator, was
going to contact the property owner and notify the owners of the
vehicles.
Cm. Burnham stated his concern was that the cars are parked a little
too close to the road and that there was a wrecked car in the ditch.
He asked if the City had any jurisdiction of getting rid of the
wrecked car.
Cm. Barnes inquired as to the phone numbers that are listed on the
vehicles for sale and asked if these can be utilized.
Mr. Tong stated that Staff can ask the Zoning Investigator to call the
phone number on the vehicles and indicate to the seller that the
vehicle is in violation of City codes and issue a warning that the
vehicle needs to be removed. He indicated Staff needs to approach the
person who is placing the vehicle there as well as the property owner.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at
10:05 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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