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Regular Meeting - July 18, 1988
A regular meeting of the City of Dublin Planning Commission was held on
July 18, 1988, in the Meeting Room, Dublin Library. The meeting was called to
order at 7:00 p.m. by Cm. Barnes, Chairman.
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ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Commissioners Barnes, Burnham, Mack, Tempel, and Zika,
Laurence L. Tong, Planning Director, Maureen 0'Halloran, Seniar Planner and
Gail Adams, Planning Secretary.
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PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
Cm. Barnes led the Commission, Staff, and those present in the pledge of
allegiance to the flag.
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ADDITIONS OR REVISIONS TO THE AGENDA
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MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
The minutes for the meeting of July 5, 1988 were approved, as corrected.
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
Mr. Tong advised that the Commissian had received 14 action Ietters.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
SUBJECT: PA 88-041 Cal-Gas Conditional Use Permit
request for the continued use of two 495
gallon propane gas storage and dispensing
tanks located in the storage yard of 6457
Dublin Court
Cm. Barnes opened the public hearing and called for the Staff Report.
Mr. Tong indicated that Cal-Gas was requesting a Conditional Use Permit to
maintain the existing use of two 495 gallon propane gas storage and dispensing
tanks.
Mr. Tong indicated that the Applicant was Mark Twitchell and the Property
Owner was Robert Lee. He indicated that the current zoning far this location
was a M-1/Light Industrial District and that the Planning Commission had
approved a Conditional Use Permit and Site Development Review request on
April 21, 1986 to allow two 9' tall propane gas storage tanks at this
location.
Mr. Tong indicated that this project had been found to be categorically exempt
and that the public hearing notice had been published, mailed to adjacent
property owners and posted in public buildings.
Mr. Tong indicated that the previous Planning Commission approval on April 21,
1986 was valid until May 2, 1988 and that a new Conditional Use Permit
application had been received by the Planning Department from Cal-Gas
requesting that they be allowed to continue storing, selling and dispensing
propane gas from the storage yard of the site.
Mr. Tong indicated that the plans had been reviewed by the Fire Department,
the City's Building Office, Public Work's Director and the Palice Department
and there were no concerns identified by those departments. He indicated,
however, that the Police Department was requesting that locks be placed on the
pumps to prevent theft.
Mr. Tong indicated that Staff recommends the Conditional Use Perrnit be
conditionally approved, with deletion of Condition #3 requiring the painting
of the storage tanks.
Cm. Burnham asked what the reasons were for the time delay on the application.
Mr. Tong indicated that Staff had needed additional information from the
Applicant before processing the application.
Cm. Barnes asked the Applicant if there were any questions or problems he had
concerning his application or the Staff Report.
Mark Twitchell indicated that he had no prabZems and would be happy to answer
any questions the Planning Commission might have.
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Cm. Barnes closed the Public Hearing.
On motion from Cm. Zika, with deletion of Condition #3, seconded by Cm.
Burnham, with a vote of 5-0, the Planning Commission approved
APPROVING PA 88-041 CAL-GAS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST
FOR THE CONTINUED USE OF TWO 495 GALLON PROPANE GAS STOR.AGE AND DISPENSING
TANKS LOCATED TN THE STORAGE YARD AT 6457 DUBLIN COURT
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SUBJECT: PA 87-045 Hansen Hill Ranch Project -
General Plan Amendment Study, Planned
Development Prezoning, Tentative
Subdivision Map No. 57b6, and Request for
Initiation of Annexation Application for
248 dwelling units on 147 acres, west of
Silvergate Drive and north of Hansen
Drive.
Cm. Barnes opened the Public Hearing and asked for the Staff Report.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that this application was a request for a General
Plan Study, Planned Development, Prezoning, Tentative Subdivi.sion and
Annexation to allow 248 dwelling units, including 141 single famliiy, 37 patio
homes, 36 custom homes and 34 townhomes, on 147 acres.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that the City Council had authorized the General Plan
Amendment Study on August 11, 1986 and the City had hired the consultant firm
of EIP to assist in processing the General Plan Amendment Study and EIR.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that the Planning Commission had held two study
sessions on February 2 and 17, 1987.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that after the Applicant had submitted the completed
application, the Draft EIR was prepared. She indicated that the public review
period for the Draft EIR ran from December 23, 1987 to February 5, 198$ and
was extended to include comments received at the February 1 and 16, 1988
Planning Commission Meetings.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that the Planning Commission held a Study Session
field trip to the Hansen Hill Ranch property on February 27, 1988.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that the Planning Commission needed to considered
five separate items involved with the application. She indicated that the
Final EIR needed to be certified; the General Plan Arnendment relating to land
use and guiding polices needed to be adopted; the Planning Development
Prezoning and Tentative Subdivision Map needed to be approved; and Annexation
needed to be initiated.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that there were a number of approaches the Planning
Commission could take when considering this application. She indicated that
the Commission could consider all five items concurrently, as requested by the
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Applicant, consider each item separately with recommendation to the City
Council or consider and provide recommendations to the City Council on the EIR
and General Plan Amendment concurrently prior to proceeding with the Planned
Development Prezoning, Tentative Map and Annexation requests.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that Staff recommends the Planning Commission choose
the latter approach. She indicated that if the Planning Commission chooses to
consider and provide recommendations on all five items concurrently, then the
Commmision should continue this application so Staff would be able to prepare
a Staff Report addressing all five iterns concurrently. Staff recommended a
reduction to a General Plan land use range of 53 to 169 dwelling units.
Mr. Jacoby, The Venture Corporation, indicated that he would like the Planning
Commission to consider all five items of the application at one time. He
indicated that this application has been pending for two years while being
heard every 3-4 months.
Mr. Jacoby passed out pamphlets showing the outline of the application's
progress. He wanted to deterrnine the number of dwelling units that could be
built. He indicated he spent over $500,000 on various studies.
Mr. Jacoby express his concerns on Staff's recommendation of reviewing the EIR
and General Plan Amendment items separately and indicated that this would
cause time delays. He indicated his March 19$8 discussion with Staff
regarding processing only the General Plan Amendment to get policy direction,
but he decided to request all the permits.
Mr. Jacoby indicated that Staff had requested detailed studies of the
application as a whole and he was under the impression that the application
was moving in the right direction and therefore was shocked with the
recommends the Staff was making.
Mr. Jacoby indicated that the time delays were getting critical and he was not
clear on the Staff's change in the course of action.
Mr. Jacoby indicated that he believed the Commission could deal with all sides
of the application at once, which would give the Commission a better grasp of
the project.
Mr. Jacoby indicated that he believed that it was unfair to change the course
of action and asked that the Staff be requested to create conditions of
approval so that the Planning Commission could deal with all aspects of the
application.
Cm. Tempel asked the Applicant how much time delay would be involved if the
Planning Commission considered each itern separately.
Mr. Jacoby indicated that it would add 3-6 months on the interim process and
reiterated that two years have already gone by since the application was first
considered.
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Cm. Tempel indicated that the City Council has not provided a density range.
Mr. Jacoby indicated that the City Council would be provided with all the
details. He indicated that these issues could be part of the Conditions of
Approval.
Cm. Tempel asked the Staff how rnueh tirne would be added.
Mr. Tong indicated that they would need to address the land use policies and
that is critical for the final design. He indicated that the Planning
Commission needs to take a look at the General Plan policy and at the same
time deal with a lot of information plus the land use design.
Mr. Tong indicated that the two year time period had not been anticipated. He
indicated there had been Staff changes within tne City and The Venture i
Corporation plus changes in the proposal. He indicated that all these factors
added to the length of processing the application. ~~I
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Gm. Tempel asked if the Planning Commission could process each phase ~
alternately; as such, the City Council would define the land use policy and
then the Planning Commission would continue to the next phase. '
Mr. Tong indicated that this process would be simpler. He indicated that each ~I
phase: General Plan Amendment Study; Planned Development and Tentative Map;
and Annexation, would go to the City Council separately for their direction.
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Fred Edsel, legal counsel for The Venture Corporation, indicated that he saw ~I
no problems going ahead with the application as a whole. He indicated the the I
information was all there and should not be overwhelming. He indicated that ~
the land use issue was already defined and there was no need for the City
Council to further define the land use. He indicated that the Planning '
Commission could make a better decision on the application as a whole because '
every aspect would be presented at one time. ,
Jim Lopez, 7463 Hansen Drive, indicated that he had seen poor planning in
other cities where he had lived and would hope that the City of Dublin would I
consider the proposal carefully.
Marjorie LaBar, Preserve Area Ridgelands Committee, indicated that she was II
opposed to the EIR as it was presented and that there seemed to be a radical
difference in opinion between the City and the Applicant and requested the
Planning Commission consider the EIR and General Plan Amendment at this time. ~
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Ms. 0'Halloran asked the Planning Commission if they wished to proceed on I
Staff's recommendation. i
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Cm. Burnham asked how the Planning Commission could address all five issues II
and make good recommendations. He indicated that there seemed to be some '
flaws in the EIR and these flaws could change the whole report. I
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Cm. Zika indicated that if the Planning Commission approves the application as ~i
a whole and then the City Council rejects it, then the process will start all I
over again.
Mr. Jacoby indicated that he was willing to take the risk and he had
confidence in his project because steps were taken slowly. '
Cm. Zika indicated that he preferred to send the recommendations on to City
Council one at a time and if we considered all items at once that the ~
application may not go to the City Council until September of 1989.
Mr. Jacoby indicated that he would prefer the Planning Commission take their
time and make sure its all integrated.
Cm. Mack indicated her preference to consider one item at a time; the EIR and
General Plan Amendment concurrently, then proceed with the other items.
Cm. Barnes indicated her perference to consider one item at a time,
Cm. Tempel indicated his preference to consider one item at a time. He
indicated that he believed, in the long run, less time would be wasted and the
items would be easier to understand with less errors made.
Ms. 0'Halloran continued the presentation of the Staff Report. '
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that the EIR consists of the DEIR plus the addendum
of May 1988 with written and oral comments incorporated into the report. She
indicated that Scott Edmonton of EIP was present to identify significant
impacts identified in the EIR and to discuss the mitigation measure options
available.
Scott Edmonton discussed the certification process of the EIR and sumrnarized
the review and findings of the EIR. He indicated that the assessment of the
EIR was required to adequately fulfill its purpose under the California
Environmental Quality Act (CEQA). He indicated that the EIR recommends
mitigation measures to reduce any significant levels of impact of the project
to the environment. He indicated that the EIR fulfills the requirement of
public review.
Mr. Edmonton indicated that the EIR is not equivalent to a project approval
nor does the EIR constrain conditions for project agpraval. He indicated,
however, that the EIR sets certain conditional standards for project approval.
Mr. Edmonton indicated that the DEIR showed 54 individual impact findings plus
67 proposals of significant mitigation measures. He indicated that the DEIR
showed 4 options to reduce certain environmental impacts. He indicated that
there were some unavaidable standard impacts for this type of project.
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Cm. Zika asked about the geology in regards to the large amount of grading, I
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Cm. Tempel asked about the traffic concerns and mitigation measures. ~i
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Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that the Planning Commission needed to rnake a '
recommendation on acceptable levels of service. She indicated that the '
mitigation measures proposed level of service D. I
Mr. Tong discussed the traffic distribution and impacts shown in the EIR.
Mr. Jacoby indicated that traffic levels would not change considerably with or
without his proposed project.
Cm. Burnham questioned the level of service of traffic, I~
Ms. 0`Halloran indicated that the traffic chart shows the impact on the level
of service with the project being approved. I
Mr. Jacoby indicated that his projeet would not be to blame for traffie I
impacts and that the traffic problems already exist on Dublin Boulevard.
Mr. Edmonton indicated that the Staff Report, Attachment No. 5, shows level of
service in three categories.
Mr, Tong further explained the chart showing level of service.
Cm. Zika asked if the level of service E meant 100~ capacity and asked about
projects that were already approved for construction.
Mr. Jacoby indicated that the Staff's information was not consistent with the
EIR.
Cm. Zika asked Mr. Jacoby why his project would not change the traffic
conditions.
Mr. Jacoby indicated that the traffic chart shows no sign of impact on
traffic.
Mr. Tong indicated that he would talk with the traffic consultants (TJKM) in
regards to the traffic comparison inconsistencies.
Cm. Barnes asked for a five rninute break.
Cm. Barnes continued the EIR discussions.
Mr. Jacoby indicated that at the last EIIt hearing there was a desire for
dedication of open space and that he has provided for certain parts of his
project be dedicated to open space.
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Marjorie Labar cammented on the adequacy of the EIR. She indicated there was ,
a recommendation for the area to be surveyed for archeology purposes. She ~
indicated that there were no approvals from the Fish & Game Department. She I
indicated that the EIR was inconsistent and incomplete and should not be ~
certified as is. '
Cm. Burnham asked Mr. Edmonton if his company was abligated to research the ~
information that the schools have provided in the EIR.
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Mr. Edmonton indicated that it was standard practice to take the information ,
by way of phone calls to the agencies and that is what is shown in the EIR.
Cm. Burnham asked about the figures shown in regards to enrollment capacity. I
He indicated that there seemed to be some discrepancies in the enrollment ,
statistics. He indicated that he had heard there were families in the Neilson ~I
School area that could not get their children enrolled because the school was li
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Mr. Edmonton indicated that this issue had come up before and that if the I
school capacity issue had a significant impact on the project, then more
research was in order.
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Cm. Burnham stressed his concern on having the busing issue arise out of this
project being constructed.
Mr. Edmonton indicated that the EIR was to show standard conditions. He
indicated that he could not set school district policies.
Cm. Burnham asked if there was a way the figures shown in the EIR could be
checked.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that she had called the school district that
afternoon in regards to the Nielson School. She indicated that the ~07
enrollment figure was correct and current enrollment was estimated to be 582
with the school having grades K-S.
Cm. Burnham asked if the school district foresaw any enrollment problems.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated negative and that the school was sttowing a surplus.
Cm. Burnham expressed his concerns on using the number statistics.
Cm. Burnham questioned where the response to Mr. Babbitt's letter was in
regards to the land.
Cm. Barnes indicated that the response was on page 3-37.
Cm. Burnham asked if this was not an adequate resgonse.
Mr. Edmonton indicated that he did not believe there was a significant impact,
that it was more on a level of a Site Development Review prablem with an
engineering solution.
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Mr. Edmonton indicated that Marjorie Labar's previous comments could be rnade
within the Conditions of Approval.
Jim Lopez, Hansen Drive, addressed the comments in regards to the school
enrollment. He indicated that the figures were not accurate in regards to the
mix, i.e., kindergarten versus the higher grades. He questioned the £uture
problems in regards to population growth. He indicated that these problems
should be addressed at this time.
Mr. Edmonton indicated that the school district does not see a future growth
problem. He reiterated that the EIR was not setting policies.
Mr. Lopez indicated that he was not questioning the EIR, however, he was
questioning where the statistic were coming from.
Ms. 0'Halloran discussed the General Plan Amendment in relation to the EIR
plus the land use designation. She indicated that portion of the site is in
the primary planning area and other portions were in the extended planning
area. She indicated that if this land was annexed, then this site should be
incorporated into the City's primary planning area,
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that there were three specific land uses, i.e.,
single family, multi-family and open space areas. She discussed the
established density ranges and the adjusted density ranges.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that the Planning Commission and City Council would
want to consider policies that are in the General Plan in regards to grading,
vegetation, open space issues and the establishment of density range and land
use designation. She indicated that Staff recommends the current policies
that are in the General Plan with the project's impacts.
Ms. 0'Halloran showed designated areas on the map posted on the wall in
addition to areas with significant grading. She indicated that the
Applicant's proposal was nat consistent with the General Plan poiicy and would
require revisions. She indicated that the Planning Commission may want to
discuss this area of the Staff Report.
Cm. Burnharn indicated that he had some difficulties in the maps and asked
which engineer was right.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that the issue was whether the General Plan polices
were adequate to address this project and if the City wants to extend Chese
planning areas.
Mr. Jacoby questioned what area of the Staff Report they were discussing and
indicated he would comment after the Staff Report had been addressed as a
whole.
Ms. 0'Halloran continued to discuss the vegetation, woodiand and riparian
areas. She indicated that General Plan polices are adequate to greserve these
areas and that the Applicant's project would remove ~hese areas and would no
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Ionger be considered open space area. She discussed the areas of sigriificant
grading, the open space areas, significant visual impacts and General Plan
policies in regards to the development of the hillside areas.
Mr. Jacoby indicated there were inaccuracies in the interpretation of the
General Plan Amendment. He indicated that he had planning background. He
indicated that there was a difference between the gross versus net density
range calculations. He indicated that the Staff Report showed 96 acres of
unbuildable areas, however his report shows 61 acres. He indicated that the
Tentative Map showed 82 acres of open space. He indicated there was a buffer
of 11 acres of open space behind the homes being built.
Mr. Jacoby indicated that the Hansen Hill project had the lowest gross density
compared to other projects that were being built and his project was
consistent with the General Plan.
Mr. Jacoby discussed the road irnprovements in regards to Valley Christian and -
Church Road.
Mr. Jacoby reiterated that the density range was miscalculated, that he was
dedicating a large amount of praperty and that the project was consistent with
the General Plan.
Cm. Barnes discussed the procedures in regards to continuing the Planning
Commission meeting to another date.
Cm. Zika indicated that the Staff and the Developer should get together to
discuss their differences. He mentioned that you could not compare other
projects if they did not have similar topography.
Mr. Tong indicated that he would be happy to sit down with the Applicant and
review the project.
Cm. Barnes agreed that Staff should meet with the Applicant.
Cm. Barnes indicated that there may be a quorum problem for the next scheduled
meeting.
Mr. Tong indicated that a study session could be set up; however, the
newspaper may need to notice the hearing.
Mr. Tong indicated that they needed to clarify tne interpretation of density
ranges.
Mr. Tong indicated that there was typically a 10-day notice period. He
indicated that the Brown Act shows 72 hours.
Cm. Barnesd requested Staff to seek legal advice.
Mr. Tong asked if July 26th was a good date for the study sessian, if legally
possible.
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Cm. Barnes stated that this was okay.
As part of the public hearing, Robert Patterson submitted a Speaker Slip
indicating opposition to the item, and Joyce Graham, representing the
Silvergate Townhouse Homeowner's Association indicated they were in favor of
the Staff recommendation.
Cm. Barnes kept the Public Hearing open and continued PA 87-045 until the next
meeting, or, if no quorum, to the August 15 meeting.
SUBJECT: PA 88-055 Zoning Ordinance Amendment -
Sign Ordinance - Second Freestanding Sign
(continued from July 5, 1988)
PA 88-056 Zoning Ordinance Amendment -
Si~n Ordinance - Service Station Price
Signs (continued from July 5, 1988)
Cm. Barnes opened the Public Hearing and asked for the Staff Report.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that this application for a sign ordinance amendment
had been continued from the meeting af July 5, 1988 in order for the Staff to
prepare the necessary resolutions approving the Negative Declaration and
recommending adoption of the sign ordinance amendment incorporating proposed
changes discussed at the previous meeting.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that the Draft Ordinance would include amendrnents to
the sign ordinance involving service station price signs and second
freestanding signs, as discussed in the Ju1y S, 1988 Planning Commission
Meeting.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that the draft resolutions recommending City Council
approval, which approval was subject to the City Attorney's review, were
attached.
Ms. 0'Halloran indicated that the Negative Declaration was attached as Exhibit
B and the Draft Ordinance was attached as Exhibit C.
Cm, Barnes closed the Public Hearing.
On motion from Cm. Mack, seconded by Cm. Tempel, with a vote of 5-0, the
Planning Commission approved
RECOMMENDING ADOPTION OF A NEGATTVE DECLARATION
FOR THE SIGN ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS
FOR PA 88-055 AND PA 88-056
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On motion from Cm. Burnham, seconded by Cm. Zika, with a vote of 5-0, the
Planning Commission approved
RECOMMENDING ADOPTION OF THE SIGN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT
PA 88-055 AND PA 88-056
NEW BUSINESS OR UNFINISHED BUSINESS
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OTHER BUSINESS
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PLANNING COMMISSIONERS' CONCERNS
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 10:33 p.m.
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Respec ully submit ed,
Planning Commissio air rson
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Laurence L. Tong
Planning Director
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