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Regular Meeting - ,Tanuary 16, 1984 !
A regular meeting of the City of Dublin Planning Commission was
held on Tuesday, January 16, 1984, in the Meeting Room, Dublin
Library. The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Cm.
Tenery, Chairman.
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ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Commissioners Alexander, Vonheeder, Petty, Mack, and
Tenery, Thomas P. DeLuca, Associate Planner, and Laurence L.
Tong, Planning Director.
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PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Cm. Tenery led the Commission, Staff, and those present in the
pledge of allegiance to the flag.
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MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
The minutes of the regular meeting-of December 19, 1983, were
approved, with the addition of Mr. DeLuca's name to the Roll
Call.
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ORAL COMMUNICATION
None
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATION
None
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PUBLIC HEARING
PA 83-091 HOLLAND BRASS SALES
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
Mr. DeLuca introduced the item, in which the applicant wished to
sell brass novelty items out-of-doors on 10 to 14 occasions,
during 1984. Staff reminded the Commissioners of the
Administrative Conditional Use Permit approved at the Planning
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Commission meeting of December 19, 1983, which had allowed Mr.
Holland to sell his brass items on one oecasion on1y. He noted
that peddler activities are a difficult issue, because of control
and potential inequities in approvals. Staff recommended denial
of the application.
Mr. Charles Holland, applicant, was present and stated that,
according to his friend in the District Attorney's office, it was
his understanding that peddler activities can only be restricted
in certain areas, but not throughout the City.
Mr. Tong clarified the intent of the Zoning Ordinance sections
which restricts light retail sales to enclosed buildings.
After a brief discussion, the public hearing was closed, and Cm.
Petty queried Staff regarding Zoning Ordinance Section 8-47.6
Mr. Tong noted that it is City Ordinance which applies to C-1 and
C-2 Districts, adding that outdoor sales has become somewhat of
an issue. He reminded the Commissioners of the merchants of the
City who do establish themselves and their work areas (i.e.
within enclosed buildings in the commercial zones.)
Cm. Mack acknowledged a distinction between seasonal businesses
such as Christmas tree lots, and on-going retail businesses, and
there was an agreement among the Commissioners that, in general,
the citizens of the City oppose street vending.
Cm. Mack made the motion to adopt the Resolution denying the
Conditional Use Permit application. Cm. Petty seconded the
motion, and it was passed by unanimous vote.
RESOLUTION NO. $4-03
DENYING PA 83-091 HOLLAND BRASS SALES
CONDITIONAL USE FERMIT TO SELL BRASS NOVELTY ITEMS
TEN TO FOURTEEN SEPARATE DATES IN 1984
Cm. Petty requested that Staff researeh locating a possible area
in which such activities can take place, in the future, in an
enclosed building, and report to the Commission at the next
meeting.
Cm. Vonheeder questioned whether or not Dublin Police Services
had made any comments regarding the matter, and Mr. Tong
responded that Police Services do, indeed, have concerns
regarding the overall activities of peddlers.
Cm. Tenery informed Mr. Holland of his right to appeal the
decision within ten days.
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PA 83-073 NIELSEN RANCH
TENTATIVE MAP 4859 EXTENSION AND ZONING REVIEW
Mr. Tong explained the application, of Wilsey and Ham, to extend
the time limit of Nielsen Ranch Tentative Map for an additional
three years. He noted that the Tentative Map, approved July,
1981, was due to expire on January 20, 1984, and the applicant
was requesting additional time to obtain necessary utility and
sewer permits, marketing time, and time to meet zoning and TM
conditions. He also noted that part of this property is located
within the City Limits of Dublin, while the balance of the parcel
is located in Alameda County.
Staff pointed out three lots (#191, 24, and 25) which appear to
present a safety and/or visual problem, and recomrnendations for
the elimination and/or redesign of these lots was presented.
Staff recommended approving the time extension for 2-1/2 years,
with conditions. He noted that the applicant had indicated
agreement with all conditions, except: 1) #28 (an original
condition of approval by the Alameda County Planning Commission.)
It was felt that the 6% grade at intersections, suggested by the
applicant's engineer, would be acceptable to Staff, instead of
the 5s minimum gradient originally called for; 2} #36 (regarding
traffic signal improvements and intersection improvements at
Silvergate Drive and San Ramon Road), which Staff felt was a
reasonable and necessary condition of approval; 3) #39 (-a new
condition recommended by Dublin Planning Staff) calling for the
elimination of lot #191; and, 4) #40, which addressed the
revision of the access of lots #24 and #25 in order to utilize
Silvergate Drive as a collector street and reduce possible safety
hazards.
He reminded the Commission that the 1478th Zoning Unit allows for
revision of the Planned Development if clear and compelling
reasons exist for such a revision. Staff felt that such reasons
do not, exist at this time, and felt that granting of the
extension was reasonable.
Staff recommended adopting the resolution modifying the original
conditions, in terms af traffic safety, and design concerns, and
recommended approval of the 2-l/2 year time extension.
Robert Nielsen, 11637 Alegre Drive, part-owner and applicant, was
present to address the Commission. He introduced Mr. Bart
Schenone, legal council; Mr. Al1en Campbell, civil engineer; and
Mr. Dave Burton, previous Dublin City Council member and liaison
betweeen the homeowners or the Briarhill and Silvergate and
Alameda County as well as Staff and the Commission, who is
familiar with the history of this project.
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Mr. Al1en Campbell, of Wilsey and Ham, Engineers, explained
opposition of the 5% gradient at intersections. He stated he
felt that a 6% gradient is more than adequate distance for
safety, judging from the more detailed Final Map.
Mr. Dave Burton, 11896 Dillon Way, gave a historical presentation
reminding the Commission that, due to a coincidence of errors,
"bureaucratic boondogelling", and misinformation concerned with
Dublin San Ramon Services District and LAFCO regarding
annexation, only a portion of the property lies within the City
Limits. He felt that it was because no one analyzed the detailed
metes and bounds description presented by LAFCO, upon
determination of the city limit of Dublin, that not all of the
Nielsen Ranch property was included within the city limit.
Another problem was present in the existence of a water tank,
located at the end of Betlen Dr., which services the upper area,
and which provides inadequate pressure to a number of homes. Mr.
Nielsen agreed to donate and install the tank for the DSRSD, and
to provide another pressure zone to service the Valley Christian
property and Estate Homes. He felt that this was a monetary
sacrifice for the developer (reminding the Commission that there
has been a tremendous amount of "bureaucracy" historically
connected with this project.)
Additionally, the developer has agreed to create the extension-of
Silvergate Drive, which is beyond the property, creating an
additional expense which would not normally be required by the
developer.
Mr. Burton called attention to Condition #30 of the draft
resolution, which called for the elimination of lot #168. He
requested that, although the lot surrounds an established fault
line, its elimination would be unnecessary and would create an
increase in the cost of the other lots within the development.
He felt that there was a sufficient amount of open space within
the development without the elimination of this lot.
He also explained opposition to Condition #36, which was
concerned with the cost of the signalization and improvements of
the intersection at Silvergate Drive and Donlon Way. He pointed
out that this project would provide two accesses, and would add
approximately l00 of the traffic impact (in comparison with other
future developments in the area) on San Ramon Road and Silvergate
Drive, yet was being required to contribute an unknown amount, up
to one-half of the cost of signal improvements. The objection
was countered with an offer from the developer, of a maximum of
250, or $25,000, toward these costs.
Regarding Condition #39, eliminating Lot #191, Mr. Burton felt
the safety concerns regarding steepness were unnecessary and did
not warrant elimination of the entire lot.
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Opposition was also voiced regarding Condition #40, requiring the
elimination of the access of Lots #24 and #25 on Silvergate
Drive.
Mr. Bart Schenone, 1331 B Street, Hayward, addressed the
Commissioners, reminding them of the fact that this Tentative Map
has not been changed in all the times that it has been "reviewed
and scrutinized by a number of public agencies" since the EIR was
published in February, 1980. He stated that he felt it would be
"unfair" to require the elimination of three lots at this late
date.
Ms. Liz Schmitt noted concern r in n hillsides as
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well as advocating donation of land, rather than fees, for
open/public space.
Mr. Dennis Ransdel, Silvergate Drive resident, noted a more
immediate need for a traffic signal at the corner of Silvergate
Drive and San Ramon Road, than two or more years from now.
The question arose whether the open space would truly be open to
the public, or simply an open area within the develo ment. Mr.
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Burton reminded the Planning Commission that 22 acres of land has
been dedicated as "public land". Mr. Tong stated that it is not,
clear, at this time, whether the open space provided would be
public, although it is designated to be maintained by a
homeowners' association.
Cm. Alexander questioned the existence of CC&R's guaranteeing
that the open space in the development would be maintained,
eliminating the burden of maintenance on the City of Dublin, in
the future.
Mr. Tong referred to Condition #20, which requires maintenance of
the open area by the developer and, later, a homeowners'
association, by personal assessments. He also reminded the
Commission that the open space contained within the approved
KREMCO/Amador Lakes project would not necessarily be accessible
to the public, but rather a visual space amenity.
Cm. Vonheeder advocated dedication of land for parks, rather than
in-lieu fees, and there was a general discussion regarding
dedication of land for public use within current developments.
She expressed a real concern regarding the lack of parkland on
that side of town, noting that "the City Council did not really
provide in the general plan for a lot of parks. ..[and this
developer is} providing a great deal of homes and a lot of
kids. al1 we have on that side of Dublin is Mapes and
Shannon, and they are totally inadequate. Cm. Tenery
agreed, but reminded her of "what happened to the parkland
presented in the general plan. ...it has already been taken
out". Cm. Vonheeder noted that the Planning Commission
"originally put parkland on that side of town".
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There bein n her comments from the audience Cm. Vonheeder
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Alexander seconded the motion, and the public hearing was closed
by unanimous vote.
Cm. Alexander uestioned the width of Silvergate Drive, noting
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confusion with respect to street width illustrated on the
Tentative Map and that referred to on the Final Map. Mr.
Campbell assured the Commission that all streets now conform to
County standards regarding minimum widths, even though the
Tentative Map does not reflect modifications which have been made
subsequent to its submission, and contained within the Final Map.
Cm. Alexander questioned whether or not Condition #41 should be
eliminated as unnecessary. Cm. Tenery agreed that it should be
eliminated. Mr. Tong suggested that the condition remain as is,
making sure that there was a minimum of 42' of paving on
Creekside (Alpha) Drive, since the original Tentative Map shows a
reduced width in certain areas. Mr. Campbell agreed that this
item does not really make a difference, and Mr. Tong reiterated
that it would be appropriate to leave the condition as is.
Regarding Condition #30, addressing the eiminiation of Lot #168,
Cm. Vonheeder stated that she felt this lot is a"dream lot",
even though it does cut off,some view of the open space. She did
not feel that the public would be utilizing the open space in
this project for picnicing, etc., and felt that the homeowners
within the project would be mainly concerned with the views.
Cm. Mack noted that this condition was in the original County
conditions of approval, but was changed. She asked if Staff had
discussed this item with the developer.
Mr. Tong stated that this was the first time that the retention
of Lot #168 had been brought to Staff's attention. Staff felt
that the condition was reasonable and felt elimination of the lot
furthered the cause of preservation of visual open space.
Additionally the mitigation measures of the EIR were geared .
toward this Condition. He "cautioned the Commission that
modification to the condition regarding visual impacts may
require different findings for the EIR".
Cm. Tenery felt that Lot 168 did, in fact exist, and had not been
eliminated. Cm. Vonheeder agreed.
Cm. Petty suggested designating this lot as a"custom lot", along
with lots #80, #81, #82, and #83. Mr. Tong noted that Staff
would be hesitant redesignating this lot, since it was originally
eliminated, and Staff has not had sufficient time to consider
re-including this lot within the subdivision. He felt that since
it is within a special setback zone, and does impact visual
access to the common area, there may be concerns which should be
further looked at before recommending that lot #168 remain.
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Attention was called to other lots within the development located
within special setback zones.
Cm. Vonheeder asked the applicant why this matter had not been
brought up in the past, since this was an original condition of
approval. Mr. Burton took responsibility for this late
opposition of the elimination of lot #168, agreeinq with Cm.
Vonheeder that this is a"neat lot". Mr. Nielsen agreed with Mr.
Burton, reminding the Commission that it is imperative that the
project be "moved alonq", and noting that he could "live without
it" also.
Cm. Mack asked if the opposition to this condition had been taken
to the County. Mr. Nielsen stated that he felt that the reason
the lot was dropped in the first place was for aesthetic reasons.
Cm. Alexander asked if elimination of that lot would have any
impact on the EIR, and Mr. Tong responded that it may. He also
called the Commission's attention to the County Staff Analysis,
dated July 20, 1981, regarding this Tentative Map. Specifically,
under Planning Considerations, Condition #30 was addressed, and
stated that "the applicants have agreed to all conditions" at
that time. He noted that the location of the fault in this lot
has probably not been pinpointed exactly. Mr. Tong reiterated
concern with the fault, as well as intrusion within the apen
area.
Cm. Tenery and Cm. Vonheeder pointed out that several other lots
had fault lines contained within the lot boundaries. Cm. Tenery
observed that Condition #30 "sounded like an arbitrary statement
from the County" and stated he felt lot #168 should be left in,
with the requirement on the builder that they satisfy all the EIR
requirements. Mr. Tong, recalled the findings of the EIR: Item
#10, referring specifically to Condition #30, still opposing re-
inclusion of lot #168.
Cm. Tenery pointed out, at this time, that lot #168 was now
within the City of Dublin. Cm. Alexander noted that lots #80 to
#83 are now in the County. Cm. Tenery clarified that, in
Condition #30, if the words "Lot 168 shall be eliminated" were
struck, a legal lot would be created. Mr. Tong affirmed this
statement, but reminded the Commission that it still may not be
buildable, creating an outright hazard, since the geologist does
not know precisely where the fault is.
Cm. Alexander confirmed with Mr. Tong, that the reason that this,
already approved, Tentative Map was before the Commission is
strictly for an extension of time. It was his understanding
that, at this point, there IS NO lot #168, so there is nothing to
eliminate, but rather a question of whether or not to reinclude
this lot within the development.
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Cm. Tenery ascertained that the Commission could, if it wished,
make changes. Mr. Tong agreed but restated that changes could
only be made if there is a clear and compelling reasons (i.e.
safety or significant other concerns), otherwise the Map should
be left as originally approved. Therefore, only Conditions #34
through #41 were a result of clear and compelling reasons, in
Staff's opinion.
This matter was held over until the new Conditions referred to by
Mr. Tong were discussed.
It was agreed that Condition #41 would remain.
Cm. Tenery did not agree with Condition #40, which dealt with the
revision of the access points to lots #24 and #25. Mr. Tong
clarified that it simply suggests that the applicant's engineer
study the access to these lots and revise them unless a revision
would be impractical. Otherwise leave the access as is. It was
suggested that the wording of the condition be revised. It was
decided that the words "or relocate the lots" would be struck.
Cm. Tenery stated that he would like to "scratch" the entire
condition #39, referring to the elimination of lot #191. Cm.
Petty suggested relocating the lot. Cm. Alexander "had no
problem with lot #191". It was agreed that Condition #39 would
be struck in its entirety.
Regarding Condition #38, the amount of time for extension was
clarified and revised to read "granted for 2-l/2 years (until
September, 1986)." This would enable the Tentative Map to be
reviewed at the same time as the Planned Development review to
avoid confusion.
With relation to Condition #36, Cm. Tenery questioned whether or
not the Silvergate/San Ramon Rd. intersection would be improved
if Mr. Nielsen does not develop this property. Mr. Tong
responded that it would be improved only if there is sufficient
funds to install a signal. The City Engineer has suggested that
a traffic light be installed at that intersection, but it was
understood that surrounding developments would contribute toward
the improvements.
Mr. Tong noted that, although the Barratt project contains only
88 units, it was contributing 25o toward signalization of the
intersection, while this project contains close to 400 units, and
will impact Dublin Blvd., to which they are not contributing
toward the improvement of. It was ascertained that other
developers would have to contribute, also, as they "come in".
Mr. Tong referred the Commission to general provision #4(e) of
the 1478th Zoning'Unit of the Planned Development, adopted by the
Board of Supervisors, and called out in the EIR findings, noting
that this condition had been in existence from the outset.
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Cm. Vonheeder did not feel comfortable with requiring the
applicant to contribute 500 of an unknown amount, which could
escalate drastically from "today's dollars", as time goes on.
Mr. Tong again noted that there is no way a dollar amount in
"future dollars" could be estimated at this time. He also asked
the Commissioners to remember all the intersections which this
development will impact, without contributing to their
improvement. He asked that they bear in mind the "per-unit" cost
in comparison with such developments as Barratt. Mr. Tong
suggested that the item be continued to allow the Staff and
applicant to meet and clarify the recommended condition.
Mr. Nielsen interjected that a delay would cost considerably more
than that of a traffic signal, and offered a dollar amount of
$40,000 to the entire intersection improvements, in order to "get
this show on the road."
Mr. Burton suggested that the ambiguous term "intersection
improvements" be eliminated from the condition. Mr. Nielsen
agreed. Mr. Tong pointed out that the interpretation of the
original conditions pertained to all improvements within the
intersection, and he quoted the condition of approval related to
this issue. There was general opposition from the Commissioners
to nebulous term "intersection improvements".
After a lengthy discussion regarding the semantics of the term
"intersection improvements", and the need for a specific dollar
amount specified, it was suggested that condition #36 be reworded
to read developer contributing up to 500 of the cost of a
traffic signal at that intersection. The contribution sha11 be
made on a prorated unit basis. This met with unanimous
approval of the Commissioners. Mr. Nielsen emphatically agreed
with this wording.
Again, dealing with condition #30, having to do with the
existence of lot #168. Cm. Tenery called for a concensus of
opinion among the Commissioners. It was agreed that, as long as
geological and seismic requirements are met, lot #168 would be
reinstated within the development. Condition #30 was struck from
the conditions of approval on the extension of the Tentative Map.
Cm. Mack made the motion, with the second of Cm. Petty, to close
the public hearing. The motion passed with unanimous vote.
Cm. Vonheeder made the motion to approve PA 83-073 Nielsen Ranch
Tentative Map, with the changes as follows:
#28 - 5o being changed to 60
#30 - Strike the words °Lot l68 shall be eliminated".
#36 - Substitute the words "up to 1/2 of the cost of the
signal" and strike the words "intersection improvements".
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#38 - Change the length of the time extension to 2-l/2
years, and the date to September, 1986.
#39 - Eliminate
#40 - Renumber to #39, and s~trike the words "or relocate the
lots".
#41 - Renumber to #40, and change "Creekside Drive" to Alpha
Drive.
The motion was seconded by Cm. Petty, and passed by unanimous
vote of the Commissioners.
RESOLUTION NO. 84-04
APPROVING PA 83-073 A TIME EXTENSION FOR
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 4859 NIELSEN RANCH
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PA 83-088 H&H DEVELOPMENT CO.
TENTATIVE MAP 5264
Mr. Tong gave a brief background and history of the application
and recommended approval of the Tentative Map, noting the number
of times this project has been reviewed by City agencies.
Mr. Fred Howell, of H&H Development stated that the project was
completely in conformance with all conditions and wishes of City
and private agencies, however, he wished for an adjustment to
Condition #8. He introduced Mr. David Lennon, of Creegan &
D'Angelo, Civil Engineers, who asked that the condition of
approval be reworded to allow the centerline curves to be simply
large enough in radius to accommodate emergency and service
vehicles.
After a discussion regarding the merits of rewording Condition
#8, the public hearing was closed.
Cm. Vonheeder made the motion, with Cm. Alexander's second, to
approve the Resolution approving Tentative Map 5264, changing the
wording of Condition #8 as follows: Centerline curves, along the ~
interior private street system, shall be as designated by the
City Engineer and shall be large enough in radius to accommodate
emergency and service vehicles, and shall not be compound curves.
This does not include centerline radii into and out of in ividual
parking lot areas.
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The motion passed by unanimous vote.
RESOLUTION NO. 84-05
APPROVING TENTATIVE MAP 5264 CONCERNING
PA 83-088 H& H DEVELOPMENT CO.
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PA 83-092 DRAFT ORDINANCE
RELATING TO SECOND UNITS
Mr. DeLuca presented the Staff Report, addressing the issue of
consideration of the Draft Ordinance regarding Second Units
located within an R-1 District. He listed, and elaborated upon,
nine criteria which Staff felt necessary for control of second
units:
1) Lot
2) Limitation
3) Size
4) Location
5) Parking
6) Design
7) Coverage
8) Occupancy
Another criteria, not listed in the Staff Report, yet one which
Staff felt essential, was that a minimum distance of ten feet be
maintained between the second unit and the original structure, if
the second unit is to be detached.
It was Staff's recommendation that the Planning Commission adopt
the resolution recommending that the City Council approve an
ordinance relating to Second Units in R-1 Districts.
Ms. Sarah Lester, 8595 Deervale Ave., was on hand to encourage
approval of the resolution, as well as to ask questions relating
to a proposed project.
Mr. Arnold Durrer, a Murietta Court resident, questioned the
potential income-producing nature of the ordinance, and Mr. Tong
noted that by nature of the criteria listed above, the
residential character of the R-1 Districts would be protected.
After the close of the public hearing, Cm. Petty made the motion,
with Cm. Alexander's second, to approve the resolution
recommending approval of the Second Unit Ordinance, with the
addition of the ninth criteria, as suggested by Staff. The
motion was passed unanimously.
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RESOLUTION NO. 84-06
RECOMMENDING THAT PA 83-092, AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO
SECOND UNITS IN R-1 DISTRICTS, BE APPROVED
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OLD BUSINESS
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NEW BUSINESS
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OTHER BUSINESS
Cm. Petty asked for a st.atus report on the General Plan.
Mr. Tong responded that the first draft was due within the next
few days.
Cm. Vonheeder questioned whether the February 23, 1984, date had
been finalized for the joint Planning Commission meeting, and Mr.
Tong stated that it had not yet been finalized.
Cm. Mack asked for the time and date of the upcoming LAFCO
meeting, and Mr. Tong indicated that the meeting would take place
at;7:30 p.m., on January l8, at the City of Pleasanton City Hall.
Cm. Alexander suggested arranging a social gathering in San
Diego, at the Planning Commissioners Institute, for the new San
Ramon Planning Commissioners. Mr. Tong was asked to contact the
San Ramon Planning Staff.
Cm. Tenery requested Staff to draft a memo to the City Council
requesting a City of Dublin after-hours, emergency, telephone
number.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at
11:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
anning Commis n Chairman' L-~
Laurence L. Tong,
Planning Director
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