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Regular Meeting - September 16, 1985
A regular meeting of the City of Dublin Planning Commission was
held on Tuesday, September 16, 1985, in the Meeting Room, Dublin
Library. The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m, by
Cm. Alexander, Chairman.
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ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Commissioners Alexander, Petty, Mack, and Raley,
Laurence L. Tong, Planning Director and Kevin J. Gailey, Senior
Planner.
~,BSENT: Commissioner Barnes
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PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Cm. Mack led the Commission, Staff, and those present in the
pledge of allegiance to the flag.
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MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
The minutes of the regular meeting of September 3, 1985, were
approved as amended; (1) Insertion of resolution numbers into
minutes.
(2) Change word "prints" to "points" on
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ORAL COMMUNICATION
None
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATION
Mr. Tong advised that a short article on zoning had been enclosed
in the Commissioner's packets for their review and use.
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PUBLIC HEARING
None
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NEW BUSINESS
Recreational Vehicle Ordinance - Background information
Mr. Tong provided a brief chronology of the events leading up to
the scheduling of this item before the Planning Commission, The
Staff report providing background information indicated the
existing ordinance requirements, discussed options and possible
modifications which might be available through an ordinance
revision process, and provided copies of three other cities'
regulations.
Mr. Tong discussed the mechanisms that will be involved to review
a possible ordinance revision.
Cm. Alexander opened the discussion to those present in the
audience, (for sake of clarity and brevity; the speakers are
identified in the order they spoke and only those major points
not discussed by previous speakers are listed).
Speaker 1- Mary Tuma (Dublin Green Drive)
1. Questioned why the City sought to control parking of R.V.'s
if there is no corresponding control of parking of cars.
2. Questioned the right/appropriateness of City controlling
activities on private property.
3. Questioned what prompted discussion of the subject.
Speaker 2- Stanley Greenspan (Amarillo Court)
1. If the City's desire is to present obstruction of air and to
eliminate fire hazard in side yard, then there should be
corresponding control on litter and placement of sheds in
side yards.
Speaker 4- Cliff Gonsalves (Amarillo Court)
1. Questioned the appropriateness of citing people who've taken
steps to upgrade their property to provide for formal R.V.
parking.
2. Process of enforcement will force people to move units to
other jurisdictions.
3. Questioned whether enforcement will force unit owners to
park on steep streets.
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4. Indicated that enforcement would force units out into
street creating safety hazard and possibly increasing
insurance premiums of unit owners.
5. Called for adoption of an ordinance requiring "legitimate"
pads for R.V, unit parking.
Speaker 5 - ,7ohn Olves (Manzanita Lane)
l. Questioned enforcement of an ordinance where squabbles
necessitate involvement of City Staff, the Planning
Commission, the City Council and the General Public.
2. Indicated opinion that Staff was "overreacting".
3. Indicated desire for new ordinance and moratorium of
enforcement of current ordinance.
Speaker 6- Robert Stein (Peppertree Road)
1. Indicated only "winners" in this issue will be storage yard
owners.
Speaker 7- Phillip Sargent (Shadow Drive)
1. Inquired whether C C& R's controlled against R.V, unit
parking.
2. Stated current situation still could see R.V, unit owners
who rent private storage spaces ticketed when parking at
their homes during vacation preparation periods.
Speaker 8- Norman Klein (Hansen Drive)
1. Indicated he was cited by City and moved unit to the private
storage facility on Portola.
2. Indicated support of City of San Ramon's R.V. ordinance.
Speaker 9- Jim Kimzey (7796 Woodren Court)
1. Stated his 14,000 sq, ft, lot still wasn't big enough or
appropriately configured to avoid receiving citation from
City, even though he'd put in a pad, fence and gate for that
purpose.
2. CompTained rental storage spaces are subject to vandals,
3. Stated City was sending message to public they don't want
families who camp.
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Speaker 10 - Joan Ferreira (Betlen Drive)
l. Asked why ordinances from Walnut Creek, Fremont and Palo
Alto were reviewed. (Mr. Tong stated City had those
ordinances, and we're working to secure copies of San Ramon,
Livermore and Pleasanton).
Speaker 11 - Jim Cuellar (Hansen Drive)
l. Requested moratorium on enforcement during period of review
of the regulations. (Cm. Raley advised Mr. Cuellar to
direct that request to the City Council.
Speaker 12 - Mr. Cliff Gonsalves (Amarillo Court)
1. Advised Commission that he'd previously requested City
Council consider ordinance adopted by the City of San Ramon
(72 hours parking in front of home and one-week visitor's
permit).
Speaker 13 - Mr. Donald Robinson (Amarillo Court)
1. Discussed enforcement process for inoperable car he'd been
involved with.
2. Indicated he could understand concerns of property owners
who didn't own R.V, units regarding impacts on property
values if ordinance was made less restrictive.
3. Asked how an effective voice to City Council could be made.
4. Indicated public safety was also a legitimate concerns
relating R.V. unit parking. (Mr. Tong interjected that the
City Council action initiated the Zoning Ordinance Amendment
review process and was done in conjunction with direction
not to put enforcement moratorium into effect).
Speaker 14 - Larry Baron (Hansen Drive)
l. Indicated need to separate R.V, unit parking issue from
concerns of front yards in "deplorable" condition.
2. Questioned why "West of San Ramon Road" residents were being
"picked on". (Mr. Tong advised enforcement was being made
City-wide on a complaint basis).
3 Stated that in his neighborhood R,V, unit owners did not
create a hazard.
4. Stated that striving to assure public safety many clash with
appropriateness of imposing controls on private property.
5. Expressed desire to have all R.V, unit owners involved in
the ordinance revision discussions.
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Speaker 15 - Loraine Fojtik (Circle Way)
l. Questioned 72 hour standard and resultant "jockeying" of
R.V, units around street.
2. Stated parking in a storage yard is not a viable option due
to costs and threat of vandalism.
Speaker 16 - Mr William Spuit (Ladero Court)
l. Questioned 72 hour standard and resultant "jockeying" of
R.V, units around street,
2. Stated he purposely bought a lot with a wide side yard.
Speaker 17 - Mr, Prize
l. Stated parking a boat was not materially different than
parking of a car.
2. Stated forcing a boat into the street creates a safety
hazard (propeller blade).
Speaker 18 - Mr. Dan Sidbury (Padre Way)
1. Stated that even those who don't own R.V. units see this
type of ordinance as an infringement on property rights.
2. Stated parking in a storage yard is not a viable option.
Speaker 19 - Elliott Healey (Betlen Drive)
1. Stated City leaders needed foresight, not bureaucracy.
2. Called for City to provide a secure R.V. unit parking
facility in Dublin.
3, Complained about enforcement process (i.e, acting on
complaint basis only).
A five minute adjournment was called for by Chairman Alexander.
An unidentified speaker suggested the definition of R.V, units be
expanded to include vans and wagons; Mr. Gonsalves complained
apparently about the inconsistances in the citation time
allowances for corrective measure (10 - 15 - 30 days).
Speaker 20 - Yvonne McFadden (Peppertree)
1. Suggested a revised ordinance look at allowing R.V. unit
parking in front yard, including driveway, and in side yard
setbacks.
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2. Suggested ordinance provide for specific minimal safety
considerations (e.g, level pads or secured pads, fenced as
feasible).
3. Ca11ed for case-by-case review of aesthetics.
Speaker 21 - Lee Fletcher (Tyne Court)
1. Stated the ordinance control on R.V. units seemed punitive
as R.V, units often are much more attractive then many
commercial vehicles which are allowed to park in residential
areas.
The Commissioners provided Staff with the following listings of
information they wished to have provided for the next Planning
Commission meeting on this subject:
1. Cm. Raley
A. Indication of how much R.V. unit storage was available
in Dublin (giving total space count and spaces vacant
and available).
B. Indication of how much R.V, unit storage was available
within a reasonable distance (giving total space count
and spaces vacant and available).
C. Background information on insurance premiums/coverage
for R.V. unit parking where located; 1) on the street,
2) in the front/sideyarcls, and 3) in the rear yard.
D. Costs of R.V, unit storage in private commercial yards.
E. Information on problems of R.V, units parked in front
yard with extension over property line into the public
right-of-way.
F. Determination an question of whether parking in the
driveway is allowed by current ordinance.
G. Discussion on feasibility of having one set of
regulations for "self-contained" units and one standard
for "non self-contained" units.
2. Cm. Petty
A. Clarification of regulations (State/City) regarding
72-hour on-street parking.
B. Provision of other City's regulations (preferably by
separate, early mailout).
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3. Cm. Alexander
A. Provision of San Leandro's ordinance among sample
ordinances provided for review.
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UNFINISHED BUSINESS
None
OTHER BUSINESS
Mr. Tong advised the Commission that the City Council would
consider the Camp Parks area annexation at their next meeting.
PLANNING COMMISSIONERS CONCERNS
Cm. Raley questioned the City's policy on installation of
sidewalks in new projects.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at
10:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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lanni Commis ion Chairman
Laurence L. Tong,
Planning Director
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